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Post by heeeeey on Sept 28, 2019 14:58:34 GMT
Big Lin , why do you think he was able to not appear to age beyond 40 or so?
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Post by Big Lin on Sept 30, 2019 13:56:44 GMT
Some people are lucky enough to look years younger than they are; others use various methods to hide their age. Even in the eighteenth century wonders could be done with make-up and even primitive forms of plastic surgery.
It's worth pointing out that a) nearly all the legends about him appeared AFTER his death; b) the fact that he died shows he wasn't 'the man who never dies;' c) as Saint-Germain's biographer points out, Voltaire's famous comment that he was 'the man who never dies' actually meant that he never stopped talking!
What is known is that he was a spy for Frederick the Great and his interventions in French politics greatly harmed the country and helped pave the way for the Revolution.
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Post by heeeeey on Sept 30, 2019 18:58:30 GMT
Why was he made a saint? Wouldn't he have had to have performed miracles?
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Post by Big Lin on Sept 30, 2019 22:01:40 GMT
Saint is not an uncommon surname in France. It has NOTHING to do with sanctity.
Saint-Just for example (one of the leaders of the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution) was anything BUT a saint.
Saint-Beuve the literary critic is another example.
There's an English poet called Bernard Saint (not very good and I've met him and he's certainly no saint!)
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 5, 2019 1:45:07 GMT
Some people are lucky enough to look years younger than they are; others use various methods to hide their age. Even in the eighteenth century wonders could be done with make-up and even primitive forms of plastic surgery. It's worth pointing out that a) nearly all the legends about him appeared AFTER his death; b) the fact that he died shows he wasn't 'the man who never dies;' c) as Saint-Germain's biographer points out, Voltaire's famous comment that he was 'the man who never dies' actually meant that he never stopped talking! What is known is that he was a spy for Frederick the Great and his interventions in French politics greatly harmed the country and helped pave the way for the Revolution. I believe Shirley McClaine the actress was a lover of St.Germain in a past life. She wrote this in one of her books. Apparently she believed in past lives and reincarnation. Her first book was Out on a Limb. I can't remember the others, though I have them around somewhere.She travelled the Camino Way, Trail, Road.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 5, 2019 22:25:43 GMT
Shirley McClaine was a fruitcake.
And Saint-Germain was a con man and spy.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 9, 2019 2:54:41 GMT
Shirley McClaine was a fruitcake. And Saint-Germain was a con man and spy. Why do you think that she was a fruit cake? She just happened to believe what I believe and that is reincarnation, past lives and Soul Travel.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 9, 2019 7:19:48 GMT
Big Lin , why do you think he was able to not appear to age beyond 40 or so? Wasn't there a movie called The Portrait of Dorian Gray about something similar. The fellow didn't age only his portrait did.
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Post by heeeeey on Oct 9, 2019 14:14:02 GMT
Big Lin , why do you think he was able to not appear to age beyond 40 or so? Wasn't there a movie called The Portrait of Dorian Gray about something similar. The fellow didn't age only his portrait did. Yes, but I don't know it was based on St. Germain. I wonder if he's the same person who dictated this book from the other side? theiamdiscourses.com/
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 9, 2019 21:16:52 GMT
Shirley McClaine was a fruitcake. And Saint-Germain was a con man and spy. Why do you think that she was a fruit cake? She just happened to believe what I believe and that is reincarnation, past lives and Soul Travel. Shirley McClaine believed in every nutty theory going. As for 'soul travel' even atheists and agnostics know how to do that. It's a psychological mechanism and it can be associated with clairvoyance, telepathy and other paranormal phenomena that are perfectly genuine but it doesn't prove reincarnation. You could actually argue that the Allan Showery murder proves the opposite; that his victim survived death as an individual soul and brought him to justice from beyond the grave. I don't believe in reincarnation but I don't assume that anyone who does is a looper.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 9, 2019 21:17:35 GMT
Wasn't there a movie called The Portrait of Dorian Gray about something similar. The fellow didn't age only his portrait did. Yes, but I don't know it was based on St. Germain. I wonder if he's the same person who dictated this book from the other side? theiamdiscourses.com/No, it wasn't. Oscar Wilde was a very interesting and intelligent bloke and he wrote 'The Portrait of Dorian Gray' in the 1890s.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 11, 2019 1:20:01 GMT
Wasn't there a movie called The Portrait of Dorian Gray about something similar. The fellow didn't age only his portrait did. Yes, but I don't know it was based on St. Germain. I wonder if he's the same person who dictated this book from the other side? theiamdiscourses.com/ That can be done by many people who know how to do it. Soul retains a finer body when it drops the physical one. When it reaches the true spiritual realms then it is just a unit of awareness.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 11, 2019 1:35:15 GMT
Why do you think that she was a fruit cake? She just happened to believe what I believe and that is reincarnation, past lives and Soul Travel. Shirley McClaine believed in every nutty theory going. As for 'soul travel' even atheists and agnostics know how to do that. It's a psychological mechanism and it can be associated with clairvoyance, telepathy and other paranormal phenomena that are perfectly genuine but it doesn't prove reincarnation. You could actually argue that the Allan Showery murder proves the opposite; that his victim survived death as an individual soul and brought him to justice from beyond the grave. I don't believe in reincarnation but I don't assume that anyone who does is a looper. Shirley was a very spiritual person, so not to be ridiculed. When a person 'passes over' they linger around for sometime instead of entering the light where they will be attended to. They can, with the help of psychics, bring their murderer to justice, they can then enter the light if there is nothing else holding them to this world.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 11, 2019 1:52:34 GMT
Yes, but I don't know it was based on St. Germain. I wonder if he's the same person who dictated this book from the other side? theiamdiscourses.com/No, it wasn't. Oscar Wilde was a very interesting and intelligent bloke and he wrote 'The Portrait of Dorian Gray' in the 1890s. He himself could have had knowledge of Saint Germain. I know that individuals go into the finer realm just above the physical plane where Ideas abound. It is possible that the information was there. Ideas always come from somewhere.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 11, 2019 6:25:45 GMT
Why do you think that she was a fruit cake? She just happened to believe what I believe and that is reincarnation, past lives and Soul Travel. Shirley McClaine believed in every nutty theory going. As for 'soul travel' even atheists and agnostics know how to do that. It's a psychological mechanism and it can be associated with clairvoyance, telepathy and other paranormal phenomena that are perfectly genuine but it doesn't prove reincarnation. You could actually argue that the Allan Showery murder proves the opposite; that his victim survived death as an individual soul and brought him to justice from beyond the grave. I don't believe in reincarnation but I don't assume that anyone who does is a looper. Unless a person has knowledge of these so called nutty theories, they will always think of it as being nutty. There is a reason why we each follow the path that we do. Our interests define the experiences that we will be given. That will always be the case.
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