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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 4, 2017 15:31:04 GMT
May Hitler burn in Hell for all he did to innocent people! Hi Lady Di, God doesn't need any help to do the job. But we do have to have love in our hearts. It is written in the Bible: 'love your neighbour as yourself' and also 'love your enemy' if we don't then we really are not followers of Jesus. The key word in your Bible quote Scottish Lassie is NEIGHBOR !! Serial killers, the worst of the worst, the demons in human form that Christ describes in Matthew 13 are to be avoided and not achieve the status of neighbor. I think you misrepresent Eckankar because it teaches detachment in regards to toxic people. The liberal, utopian belief that if you shower the worst of the worst with love and "feel good smiles" they will eventually lighten up and discover their positivity and good traits is at best nonsense, if not a dehabilitating sickness that political correctness promotes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 19:26:40 GMT
See above So did that other person hear that from the voices in their head ? Hi Gibby, You evidently know very little about the workings of ECKANKAR. When you seek spiritual enlightenment, there is a process that takes place in order for a person to receive enlightenment, and when that happens, the person starts gravitating towards the Godhead. It says in the Bible that our understanding is as if we are looking through a glass darkly. In order to gain enlightenment we have to seek that enlightenment. It also says: ask and ye shall receive. If we follow these instructions then spiritual evolvement takes place. With each stage of development a person gains more spiritual understanding until you finally reach a stage that you are no longer in the dark about what life is all about. At the moment, the majority of people are blind and will remain like that until they start seeking spiritual enlightenment. That is about the gist of things, Seek and ye shall Find.!!! I've no idea what you're talking about
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2017 0:02:01 GMT
The basic thrust of it seems to be that enlightened people don't care about anyone but themselves.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 5:03:34 GMT
Hi Big Lin, Creating war, turns you into a mass murderer. In war, people are killed and just because Napoleon sought power to control the world, just as Hitler did. Napoleon came to power just as the bloody French Revolution was winding down. In fact, he was selected by the leaders of the revolutionaries who had beheaded King Louie the sixteenth. European governments were monarchies at that time. The big powers, England, Spain, Russia, Austria, and Prussia all had their kings. Those monarchs were immediately hostile toward France because they wanted no part of any revolution such as the one that had just murdered the French king. They were equally upset because Napoleon was a commoner with no royal bloodline. Getting rid of Napoleon and restoring the French monarchy was very high on their collective priority lists. In addition, France was a traditional enemy of Britain and Austria. They already viewed each other as enemies before the French Revolution. I doubt very much that Napoleon had ambitions to conquer most of Europe when he first took power. That probably came later when he had tasted the glory of his many victories on the battlefield. Napoleon was, after all, a great general and military tactician moreso than anything else. He was only 43 when he died having already been in exile for several years. He was an amazing man. Hi BushAdmirer, Thanks for all the info. I remember the people of France rising up and beheading royalty because of the way that they were treated.In Napoleon's case, it just goes to show what a taste of power can do to a person, they then want to conquer the whole world.!!! He still was responsible for the lives of the men who lost their lives as he continued on until he was stopped and ended up as a prisoner in Elba.[/quote]
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 5:27:44 GMT
The basic thrust of it seems to be that enlightened people don't care about anyone but themselves. Hi Big Lin, That is far from the truth, It is because we DO care that we say the things that we do. A person can allow themselves to drown in a sea of emotion and it doesn't change the circumstances one whit.!!! I hate to see people wallow in their own misery. Atrocities of any kind, or even bad behaviour that has happened in the past cannot be undone. Why spend the rest of time allowing certain happenings that you cannot change, be a blight on your life, making yourself miserable over it and perhaps ruining your health, It doesn't seem logical to me.!!! We Do have to learn to control our emotions one way or another.IMO.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 5:39:33 GMT
Hi Gibby, You evidently know very little about the workings of ECKANKAR. When you seek spiritual enlightenment, there is a process that takes place in order for a person to receive enlightenment, and when that happens, the person starts gravitating towards the Godhead. It says in the Bible that our understanding is as if we are looking through a glass darkly. In order to gain enlightenment we have to seek that enlightenment. It also says: ask and ye shall receive. If we follow these instructions then spiritual evolvement takes place. With each stage of development a person gains more spiritual understanding until you finally reach a stage that you are no longer in the dark about what life is all about. At the moment, the majority of people are blind and will remain like that until they start seeking spiritual enlightenment. That is about the gist of things, Seek and ye shall Find.!!! I've no idea what you're talking about Hi Gibby, Ofcourse you don't.!!! You have to be seeing life from the perspective of a member of ECKANKAR, that is why I said that people will stay blind to the truth as we know it. Enlightenment is given in stages, if it wasn't, a person would no doubt, go mad. Life is not as most people think it to be. If you received the full truth in one go you wouldn't be able to comprehend it.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 9:01:04 GMT
Hi Lady Di, God doesn't need any help to do the job. But we do have to have love in our hearts. It is written in the Bible: 'love your neighbour as yourself' and also 'love your enemy' if we don't then we really are not followers of Jesus. The key word in your Bible quote Scottish Lassie is NEIGHBOR !! Serial killers, the worst of the worst, the demons in human form that Christ describes in Matthew 13 are to be avoided and not achieve the status of neighbor. I think you misrepresent Eckankar because it teaches detachment in regards to toxic people. The liberal, utopian belief that if you shower the worst of the worst with love and "feel good smiles" they will eventually lighten up and discover their positivity and good traits is at best nonsense, if not a dehabilitating sickness that political correctness promotes.
Hi Anna, In my Bible when I was sudying as a reasonably young person, the saying was 'Don't throw pearls before swine'. ECKANKAR teaches detachment to the things of this Earth plane because it is not the reality.!!! We are Soul and the pure spiritual planes are the reality. The physical plane has been created to allow Soul the opportunity to have experiences that would not be available in the spiritual planes.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 11:48:19 GMT
Napoleon was a nasty bit of work but compared to Hitler he was a heavenly angel. And of course the main point is that if this stupid woman seriously thinks Hitler was a 'sweet kid' then she has the moral sensitivity of a serial killer. You know, 27 January is Holocaust Memorial Day. I always get sad and introverted about that time. Relatives of mine were murdered by Hitler's goons and my uncle was an Auschwitz survivor. So I really don't appreciate your insensitivity in bringing your Eckist beliefs on to this particular thread. Hitler, like Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and a few other psychos, achieved the power to destroy. So please don't come up with this sort of nonsense on that particular subject again. Hi Big Lin, Wise people don't dwell on the past, and by the way, have you forgotten that the way you treat another human being is the way that you treat your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.!!!
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2017 20:10:05 GMT
Napoleon was a nasty bit of work but compared to Hitler he was a heavenly angel. And of course the main point is that if this stupid woman seriously thinks Hitler was a 'sweet kid' then she has the moral sensitivity of a serial killer. You know, 27 January is Holocaust Memorial Day. I always get sad and introverted about that time. Relatives of mine were murdered by Hitler's goons and my uncle was an Auschwitz survivor. So I really don't appreciate your insensitivity in bringing your Eckist beliefs on to this particular thread. Hitler, like Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and a few other psychos, achieved the power to destroy. So please don't come up with this sort of nonsense on that particular subject again. Hi Big Lin, Wise people don't dwell on the past, and by the way, have you forgotten that the way you treat another human being is the way that you treat your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.!!! Scottish Lassie, you are being monumentally insensitive. Basically you are spitting on the graves of the millions murdered by scumbags like Hitler, Stalin and their ilk. You are adopting a pose of superior smugness and, oh, never mind all that; it was in the past so you've got no right to feel sad, to shed tears, to grieve or to remember the murdered victims. Well, the way you are treating me on this thread I'd respectfully say is a way that my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ would find deeply offensive and hurtful.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2017 20:11:35 GMT
The key word in your Bible quote Scottish Lassie is NEIGHBOR !! Serial killers, the worst of the worst, the demons in human form that Christ describes in Matthew 13 are to be avoided and not achieve the status of neighbor. I think you misrepresent Eckankar because it teaches detachment in regards to toxic people. The liberal, utopian belief that if you shower the worst of the worst with love and "feel good smiles" they will eventually lighten up and discover their positivity and good traits is at best nonsense, if not a dehabilitating sickness that political correctness promotes.
Hi Anna, In my Bible when I was sudying as a reasonably young person, the saying was 'Don't throw pearls before swine'. ECKANKAR teaches detachment to the things of this Earth plane because it is not the reality.!!! We are Soul and the pure spiritual planes are the reality. The physical plane has been created to allow Soul the opportunity to have experiences that would not be available in the spiritual planes. Another example of how cults brainwash people into being smug, insensitive and callous. It's very easy to harden yourself to the suffering of others. But it's anything BUT spiritually enlightened to be like that.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2017 20:16:06 GMT
The basic thrust of it seems to be that enlightened people don't care about anyone but themselves. Hi Big Lin, That is far from the truth, It is because we DO care that we say the things that we do. A person can allow themselves to drown in a sea of emotion and it doesn't change the circumstances one whit.!!! I hate to see people wallow in their own misery. Atrocities of any kind, or even bad behaviour that has happened in the past cannot be undone. Why spend the rest of time allowing certain happenings that you cannot change, be a blight on your life, making yourself miserable over it and perhaps ruining your health, It doesn't seem logical to me.!!! We Do have to learn to control our emotions one way or another.IMO. Listen up, Lassie. In the REAL world where people who haven't been brainwashed live, empathy for the suffering of others is one of the things that defines us. Human and humane come from the same Latin word. And people controlling their emotions is one thing; people who wouldn't know an emotion if it came up to them and bit them is quite another. Lack of emotion is one of the characteristics of psychopaths. I've had a lot of personal tragedy in my life - rape, murder, criminality, having a relative who was an Auschwitz survivor. I also have a son who is autistic. So maybe if you had as much in your life history as I do in mine you might not make such an insensitive and cruel comment.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2017 22:08:26 GMT
Here, by the way, is a quote from Eckist philosophy.
When you get out of the habit of listening, the voice of Divine Spirit becomes weaker and weaker. Not because It is speaking in a quieter voice, but because you have turned down the volume control on the inner instrument of Soul.
—Harold Klemp The Language of Soul
So maybe, on your own principles, you need to listen more rather than to assume that you know it all.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 5, 2017 22:44:45 GMT
Hi Big Lin, Wise people don't dwell on the past, and by the way, have you forgotten that the way you treat another human being is the way that you treat your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.!!! Scottish Lassie, you are being monumentally insensitive. Basically you are spitting on the graves of the millions murdered by scumbags like Hitler, Stalin and their ilk. You are adopting a pose of superior smugness and, oh, never mind all that; it was in the past so you've got no right to feel sad, to shed tears, to grieve or to remember the murdered victims. Well, the way you are treating me on this thread I'd respectfully say is a way that my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ would find deeply offensive and hurtful. Hi Big Lin, You can shed tears till the cows come home if you want to feel grief, all that it will succeed in doing is exhausting you for starters, besides making yourself miserable and probably those around you who care about you deeply, so why put them through a troubled time as well. Perhaps it is you that is the insensitive one? Everything happens for a reason.!!! Besides that, Hitler was a very ill person, which ofcourse affected his thinking. He was taking at least 9 different pills each day and having an injection as well. I have forgotten what they were all for. Apart from that he never gave direct orders for the gassing of the Jews or any others. He would give private dinners to the important people around him and he did state that he wanted to get rid of the Jews and that the most humane way to get rid of them was to gas them. His cohorts took care of it all as ofcourse they all wanted to please him.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 6, 2017 2:16:22 GMT
Here, by the way, is a quote from Eckist philosophy. When you get out of the habit of listening, the voice of Divine Spirit becomes weaker and weaker. Not because It is speaking in a quieter voice, but because you have turned down the volume control on the inner instrument of Soul. —Harold Klemp The Language of Soul So maybe, on your own principles, you need to listen more rather than to assume that you know it all. Hi Big Lin, I know that I don't know it all, but I'm still in there seeking and listening. I met a woman whilst on my way to a church service yesterday, we got talking, and because I had told her when she asked me, I told her, and ofcourse she asked me more questions. Anyway we found out that we had many things in common in our spiritual values even though we were of different denominations. She was a Holy Sister living in a monastery, she wasn't Catholic because she said no, but didn't elaborate, so I left it at that. When we got off the bus, we hugged each other and said goodbye she also told me that she had visited Scotland and mentioned that she had visited Aberdeen where I was born. Her name was Heather interestingly enough.If I wasn't still listening to God, that meeting would not have taken place, it had given me the opportunity to talk about ECKANKAR. Love surrounded us both, and that is what ECKANKAR is all about. ' GOD is LOVE '
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 6, 2017 3:32:13 GMT
Here, by the way, is a quote from Eckist philosophy. When you get out of the habit of listening, the voice of Divine Spirit becomes weaker and weaker. Not because It is speaking in a quieter voice, but because you have turned down the volume control on the inner instrument of Soul. —Harold Klemp The Language of Soul So maybe, on your own principles, you need to listen more rather than to assume that you know it all. Hi Big Lin, not at anytime am I meaning to be cruel as you have mentioned in another post. Love is at the forefront of all my communication with others. When a person is thinking back to something that is sad, what does it accomplish? You just spend a day miserable affecting those around you as well. There is no point in that. Had you not been thinking of the past, you could have spent it under more pleasurable circumstances. Why waste a day feeling sad? Everyone is searching for happy times. As I keep saying, there is a reason for what happens to people and that is what is written in the Bible, a person reaps what they sow, is that a lie? If you take reincarnation into consideration then everything fits in. Jesus was seen speaking to Moses and Elijah both dead people, and isn't it also said that we are not meant to talk with the dead, so why was He doing it? Not only that, He said that Elijah had come again, and His Disciples took it to mean John the Baptist. Why should they think that? unless they were aware that there WAS such a thing as reincarnation. If it had been otherwise, I am sure Jesus would have corrected them. He didn't, so it stands to reason that Jesus believed it too. He did however tell them to keep quiet about what they had seen. Very strange behaviour, which definitely makes me wonder as to what is going on. But one thing that I'm sure about is: that there is such a thing as reincarnation and that Jesus came to preach LOVE not HATE.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 6, 2017 7:21:08 GMT
Here, by the way, is a quote from Eckist philosophy. When you get out of the habit of listening, the voice of Divine Spirit becomes weaker and weaker. Not because It is speaking in a quieter voice, but because you have turned down the volume control on the inner instrument of Soul. —Harold Klemp The Language of Soul So maybe, on your own principles, you need to listen more rather than to assume that you know it all. Hi Big Lin, Your accusations are all in your wordly mind, you do not give me the impression of being a spiritual person. If you were, you would have spiritual understanding which you don't have, otherwise you wouldn't be so hateful in your speech. A spiritual person is humble, there are no two ways about it.!!! Whatever the case in regards to the Holocaust, the fact of what the cause of it was, reliving it with hatred in your heart is certainly not the way to go.Hatred is not of God.!!! When we allow hatred to influence our thoughts then we have a big problem. We are certainly not obeying Jesus Christ who stipulated that we should love our neighbours as ourselves and even those whom we think are our enemies. As long as we are alive on this Earth plane, we have lessons to learn. I need to add one more thing, and that is to say that it is possible that your relatives who you say were murdered, are already reborn as younger relatives of your Romany family. That is what happens.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 8, 2017 14:09:33 GMT
The basic thrust of it seems to be that enlightened people don't care about anyone but themselves. Hi Big Lin, I think it is time that you started showing some respect towards another person's religious denomination. ECKANKAR is a bona fide religion, and therefore is not a cult. No one is being brainwashed. The experiences that I have had since young, and long before I ever heard of ECKANKAR, is what gives me my belief. People of like mind will eventually find each other and therefore form a group. As it is spiritual, ofcourse they have every right to become a religion, just as what has happened to those who believe in Christ. We believe in God and naturally follow and listen to the Holy Spirit,so please mind yuur manners.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 8, 2017 16:44:54 GMT
The basic thrust of it seems to be that enlightened people don't care about anyone but themselves. Hi Big Lin, I think it is time that you started showing some respect towards another person's religious denomination. ECKANKAR is a bona fide religion, and therefore is not a cult. No one is being brainwashed. The experiences that I have had since young, and long before I ever heard of ECKANKAR, is what gives me my belief. People of like mind will eventually find each other and therefore form a group. As it is spiritual, ofcourse they have every right to become a religion, just as what has happened to those who believe in Christ. We believe in God and naturally follow and listen to the Holy Spirit,so please mind yuur manners. I think it's time you started showing some respect for the victims of genocide.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 9, 2017 1:22:58 GMT
Hi Big Lin, I think it is time that you started showing some respect towards another person's religious denomination. ECKANKAR is a bona fide religion, and therefore is not a cult. No one is being brainwashed. The experiences that I have had since young, and long before I ever heard of ECKANKAR, is what gives me my belief. People of like mind will eventually find each other and therefore form a group. As it is spiritual, ofcourse they have every right to become a religion, just as what has happened to those who believe in Christ. We believe in God and naturally follow and listen to the Holy Spirit,so please mind your manners. I think it's time you started showing some respect for the victims of genocide. Hi Big Lin, From your own supernatural experiences I thought you would understand that the physical Universe is not all that there is to life, but it doesn't seem to make any difference to you. I'm not the one that thought up the saying: ' Ye reap what ye sow ' Apparently you don't believe it, AMAZING.!!! These people who died in the Holicaust have probably all reincarnated, so don't need your tears. Life goes on and you need to make the most of it. The Holicaust was indeed a sad and horrible episode in time, but is it necessary to relive it? We need to concentrate on why we are here. We have lessons to learn, shouldn't you be asking what they are? Ask and you shall receive.!!! By the way, if a person doesn't react to an emotion that doesn't mean they have hardened their heart. It only means that in their wisdom they have decided that to react, is pointless.!!! You have evidently not realised this yet. May the Blessings Be.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 9, 2017 20:41:39 GMT
Even now you don't have the faintest idea of how insufferably disrespectful your attitudes are to my murdered relatives and the millions of other victims of the Holocaust.
Your cosy idea that they all got reincarnated and that we should just forget about the past is no more than a theory.
I know we all have lessons to learn in life; perhaps it's about time you started.
All I know is that people who care show empathy; they DON'T patronise the suffering of others or regard it as being unimportant.
You sound like Jean-Marie Le Pen who described the Holocaust as 'a detail in history.'
I'm sure that's not your intention but that's how it comes across; callous, unfeeling and insensitive.
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