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Post by Big Lin on Aug 4, 2016 21:19:17 GMT
In 2016, Toddlers Have Shot More People in the US Than Muslim Terrorists Have
Donald Trump has made a big deal out of barring Muslims from entering the United States on the basis that some might be terrorists sneaking in to stage attacks. But the real front line in protecting Americans' safety may be much closer to home.
According to the Washington Post, your nation's nurseries are housing more than just unbearable levels of cuteness: Twenty-three people have been shot by toddlers in the U.S. since the start of 2016 — exactly 23 more than have been shot by Muslim terrorists over the same period.
There seems to be no end in sight... fear the toddlers.....
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 4, 2016 22:57:27 GMT
Toddlers will have to do a lot of killing before they get anywhere near to the over 3,000 dead in the 911 attack.
Of course your article makes the Florida gay killer a non-Muslim. I'll be happy to keep all Mideastern terrorists, terrorist supporters, enablers, deadbeats, criminals, etc..OUT. I'm not interested if an Imman or political correctness defines them as Muslims or not.
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Post by mikemarshall on Aug 4, 2016 23:17:26 GMT
Toddlers will have to do a lot of killing before they get anywhere near to the over 3,000 dead in the 911 attack. Of course your article makes the Florida gay killer a non-Muslim. I'll be happy to keep all Mideastern terrorists, terrorist supporters, enablers, deadbeats, criminals, etc..OUT. I'm not interested if an Imman or political correctness defines them as Muslims or not. Ah, right-wing political correctness strikes again. What you are saying, Anna, is that you are not interested on decisions based upon facts, rationality and fairness but simply wish to accept as reality those things that confirm your own prejudices. Perhaps we need to repost the Proboards guidelines about hate speech. It seems to me there is a considerable degree of that happening here lately. And a non-Muslim simply IS a non-Muslim. No matter how hard you try to twist the facts to make them fit your preconceptions.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 5, 2016 1:09:34 GMT
Toddlers will have to do a lot of killing before they get anywhere near to the over 3,000 dead in the 911 attack. Of course your article makes the Florida gay killer a non-Muslim. I'll be happy to keep all Mideastern terrorists, terrorist supporters, enablers, deadbeats, criminals, etc..OUT. I'm not interested if an Imman or political correctness defines them as Muslims or not. Ah, right-wing political correctness strikes again. What you are saying, Anna, is that you are not interested on decisions based upon facts, rationality and fairness but simply wish to accept as reality those things that confirm your own prejudices. Perhaps we need to repost the Proboards guidelines about hate speech. It seems to me there is a considerable degree of that happening here lately. And a non-Muslim simply IS a non-Muslim. No matter how hard you try to twist the facts to make them fit your preconceptions. Glad to see you back Mike! Hope your health is as good as it can be.
Political correctness leftist and rightist is largely following the masses and certain pressures. I think quite independently and have debated long and hard against neo cons, pro Hiroshima nukers, etc..
This isn't hate speech, but simply a realisation that very different cultures don't mix and we should avoid mixing them.
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 5, 2016 22:04:04 GMT
It's not a 'realisation' that 'different cultures' should 'not mix;' that's just a prejudiced opinion.
Perhaps you regret the days of apartheid in South Africa?
I don't.
Life is nearly always a choice of evils and I can't really think of any positive things to say about any kind of separateness whether it's based on race or religion.
And the FACTS are that NOBODY in America has been shot by a Muslim this year.
23 have by toddlers.
And if it comes to that almost all 'school' and 'college' shooters are non-Muslim.
So why don't you start condemning THEM simply for BEING non-Muslim?
It's just as irrational as condemning Muslims simply for being Muslim.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 5, 2016 22:45:38 GMT
It's not a 'realisation' that 'different cultures' should 'not mix;' that's just a prejudiced opinion. Perhaps you regret the days of apartheid in South Africa? I don't. Life is nearly always a choice of evils and I can't really think of any positive things to say about any kind of separateness whether it's based on race or religion. And the FACTS are that NOBODY in America has been shot by a Muslim this year. 23 have by toddlers. And if it comes to that almost all 'school' and 'college' shooters are non-Muslim. So why don't you start condemning THEM simply for BEING non-Muslim? It's just as irrational as condemning Muslims simply for being Muslim. OK so toddlers are more dangerous than Muslims. But don't you agree that our world would be a much better place if we could figure out how to get rid of Islam? Just think about how many women would be much better off. Terrorist attacks would drop precipitously. All those people who are pursuing Islamic Studies could switch to a curriculum that might actually benefit them and society, for instance flipping burgers at McDonalds.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 6, 2016 2:01:30 GMT
Big Lin the Orlando professed Muslim killed 49 people in that gay night club alone this year. Of course you're free to claim he was not a Muslim. You can claim Torquemada had nothing to do with Christianity and that Stalin had nothing to do with Atheism, if you're afraid of offending Christians + Atheists, but this only shows how wacky political correctness is becoming.
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Post by trubble on Aug 6, 2016 16:03:32 GMT
Hullo, it is I, Trubble, you may not remember me, or you may wish you could forget me, I appear to have not posted for a few years but hello, again, dear botbot boarders, hope all is well. Interesting conversation! I hope you don't mind if I join the scrum.
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Post by trubble on Aug 6, 2016 17:48:38 GMT
Now, guys, come on. Toddlers? Really? Aren't the toddler stories really about a tiny kid finds a loaded gun and accidentally shoots himself or a nearby kid or parent. Oughtn't these killings be attributed to the gun owners and toddler carers? Isn't it fairer to say that toddlers should be more afraid of their so-called primary carers than toddlers should be afraid of terrorism?
As for the shooter in Orlando, I will accept correction as I haven't made a point of researching him too much, but I would probably argue that the main driver behind his actions was his mental health (for want of a better umbrella term).
But, even so, are we supposed to just ignore that he chose to link his murders to ISIL? Why?
P.S. Just to make it clear, I am not in the Trump camp.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 6, 2016 22:27:32 GMT
Trubble it is good to see you back here.
The Orlando shooter knew that he'd be committing suicide by committing those crimes and attacks. People facing death often embrace religion. It is in hope that maybe there really is an afterlife. They're just trying to cover their bets. His embrace of ISIL was most likely for that reason.
Trump is a guy with a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. Hillary only has negatives. Neither would be even close to my ideal candidate but Trump definitely trumps Hillary.
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 6, 2016 22:53:21 GMT
Big Lin the Orlando professed Muslim killed 49 people in that gay night club alone this year. Of course you're free to claim he was not a Muslim. You can claim Torquemada had nothing to do with Christianity and that Stalin had nothing to do with Atheism, if you're afraid of offending Christians + Atheists, but this only shows how wacky political correctness is becoming. Anna, I'm not afraid of offending anyone. Do you think I haven't argued with extremist Muslims? Have you? And as for 'wacky political correctness,' you always take the 'right-wing politically correct' position all the time. Maybe you need to try to think more independently?
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 6, 2016 22:54:49 GMT
It's not a 'realisation' that 'different cultures' should 'not mix;' that's just a prejudiced opinion. Perhaps you regret the days of apartheid in South Africa? I don't. Life is nearly always a choice of evils and I can't really think of any positive things to say about any kind of separateness whether it's based on race or religion. And the FACTS are that NOBODY in America has been shot by a Muslim this year. 23 have by toddlers. And if it comes to that almost all 'school' and 'college' shooters are non-Muslim. So why don't you start condemning THEM simply for BEING non-Muslim? It's just as irrational as condemning Muslims simply for being Muslim. OK so toddlers are more dangerous than Muslims. But don't you agree that our world would be a much better place if we could figure out how to get rid of Islam? Just think about how many women would be much better off. Terrorist attacks would drop precipitously. All those people who are pursuing Islamic Studies could switch to a curriculum that might actually benefit them and society, for instance flipping burgers at McDonalds. I don't think the world would be better place if we could get rid of Islam. I think the world would be a better place if we could get rid of intolerance, fanaticism and authoritarianism.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 7, 2016 1:13:31 GMT
OK so toddlers are more dangerous than Muslims. But don't you agree that our world would be a much better place if we could figure out how to get rid of Islam? Just think about how many women would be much better off. Terrorist attacks would drop precipitously. All those people who are pursuing Islamic Studies could switch to a curriculum that might actually benefit them and society, for instance flipping burgers at McDonalds. I don't think the world would be better place if we could get rid of Islam. I think the world would be a better place if we could get rid of intolerance, fanaticism and authoritarianism. --> "I think the world would be a better place if we could get rid of intolerance, fanaticism and authoritarianism" Well it seems to me that ridding our world of Islam would certainly help with those three.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 7, 2016 4:40:38 GMT
Big Lin the Orlando professed Muslim killed 49 people in that gay night club alone this year. Of course you're free to claim he was not a Muslim. You can claim Torquemada had nothing to do with Christianity and that Stalin had nothing to do with Atheism, if you're afraid of offending Christians + Atheists, but this only shows how wacky political correctness is becoming. Anna, I'm not afraid of offending anyone. Do you think I haven't argued with extremist Muslims? Have you? And as for 'wacky political correctness,' you always take the 'right-wing politically correct' position all the time. Maybe you need to try to think more independently? I argue with so called neo con conservatives. The promoters of foreign wars, colonialism, meddling in foreign nations, etc. .
Actually this drive for everything from colonialism to senseless foreign wars was a "Democrat agenda", but with a clever high finance switcheroo it became somewhat of a "Rebublican agenda". I'm pleased that Trump has condemned the wars against Iraq and Libya. Hillary has always supported foreign wars.
I'm very much opposed to using weapons of mass destruction and other genocidal attacks on civilians. I don't want any ethnicity nuked or fire bombed and that means Muslims should be spared this as well as all humanity.
For some reason you have supported the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well as the senseless fire bombing of civilians in Dresden, Tokyo and so many other cities during the 2nd high finance world war. Sad.
I see the leftist liberal double standards everywhere and I simply don't support them.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 7, 2016 15:51:41 GMT
I don't think the world would be better place if we could get rid of Islam. I think the world would be a better place if we could get rid of intolerance, fanaticism and authoritarianism. --> "I think the world would be a better place if we could get rid of intolerance, fanaticism and authoritarianism" Well it seems to me that ridding our world of Islam would certainly help with those three. Of course the same could have been said about our Christian ancestors in medieval Europe. I say let the Muslims live out their Dark Age/Medieval religion within the borders of their Islamic nations and keep those borders tight.
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Post by trubble on Aug 7, 2016 18:51:46 GMT
Trubble it is good to see you back here. Hi! Thank you, it is good to see you again too. Sounds plausible, alright. I was never a fan of Bush, but he wasn't as awful as I predicted he'd be, so in that sense he sorta grew on me, and, to tell you the truth, if I had to invite either George W or the Clintons out to dinner, I'd choose Bush every time because I think he'd be a lot more fun. (I cannot warm to the Clintons, even though every time I do one of those political quiz things online to see who is vote for, it is Hillary). Trump is in a separate zone altogether, very unlikeable. I very much wish he'd disappear down a sinkhole. But I'm coming to terms with the idea that for some people he's better than Hillary, so I'll try to keep my anti-trumpism in check on here. But tell me this, were you hoping for another Bush in the Whitehouse?
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Post by mikemarshall on Aug 7, 2016 20:43:17 GMT
Perhaps Krishnamurti is correct in his claim that ANY belief system is inherently authoritarian and that only by abandoning ALL belief systems can humanity progress.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 7, 2016 22:27:12 GMT
Trubble it is good to see you back here. Hi! Thank you, it is good to see you again too. Sounds plausible, alright. I was never a fan of Bush, but he wasn't as awful as I predicted he'd be, so in that sense he sorta grew on me, and, to tell you the truth, if I had to invite either George W or the Clintons out to dinner, I'd choose Bush every time because I think he'd be a lot more fun. (I cannot warm to the Clintons, even though every time I do one of those political quiz things online to see who is vote for, it is Hillary). Trump is in a separate zone altogether, very unlikeable. I very much wish he'd disappear down a sinkhole. But I'm coming to terms with the idea that for some people he's better than Hillary, so I'll try to keep my anti-trumpism in check on here. But tell me this, were you hoping for another Bush in the Whitehouse? --->But tell me this, were you hoping for another Bush in the Whitehouse? No, Jeb never really struck me as a leader. None of the recent crop of candidates really inspired me. I do like Kasich but don't think he's smart enough. I like Newt Gingrich better than any of the candidates.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 7, 2016 22:51:28 GMT
Perhaps Krishnamurti is correct in his claim that ANY belief system is inherently authoritarian and that only by abandoning ALL belief systems can humanity progress. Hear, hear! 100% agree with Krishnamurti. Our world would be so much better off without Communism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Socialism, etc. Let's ditch them all.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 28, 2016 14:07:38 GMT
Perhaps Krishnamurti is correct in his claim that ANY belief system is inherently authoritarian and that only by abandoning ALL belief systems can humanity progress. Hear, hear! 100% agree with Krishnamurti. Our world would be so much better off without Communism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Socialism, etc. Let's ditch them all. Hi BushAdmirer, that is an impossibility. Belief systems include believing that the Sun will come up in the morning etc. we cannot ditch all our beliefs, we believe in this and we believe in that.!!!
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