♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on May 17, 2016 9:50:18 GMT
|
|
|
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 18, 2016 13:50:18 GMT
In 1961, President John F Kennedy said, "We will put men on the moon."
In 2016, President Barack Obama said, "We will put men in women's bathrooms."
|
|
|
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 18, 2016 14:03:25 GMT
The Obama administration has banned all U.S. government agencies from producing any training materials that link Islam with terrorism. In fact, the FBI has gone back and purged references to Islam and terrorism from hundreds of old documents.
In San Francisco, authorities have installed small plastic “privacy screens” on library computers so that perverts can continue to exercise their “right” to watch pornography at the library without children being directly exposed to it.
|
|
|
Post by blc on May 18, 2016 18:48:11 GMT
In 1961, President John F Kennedy said, "We will put men on the moon." In 2016, President Barack Obama said, "We will put men in women's bathrooms." Priceless. This is just begging to be photoshopped. Dang, I may have to go do that right now.
|
|
|
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 18, 2016 21:42:30 GMT
In 1961, President John F Kennedy said, "We will put men on the moon." In 2016, President Barack Obama said, "We will put men in women's bathrooms." Priceless. This is just begging to be photoshopped. Dang, I may have to go do that right now. That's great!
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on May 27, 2016 23:51:47 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Big Lin on May 28, 2016 21:49:28 GMT
You know, sometimes some people really ARE racists, homophobes, misogynists and so on.
I've been accused of being PC by the right because I condemn attitudes, remarks and behaviour that I consider to be racist, homophobic, misogynist and so on.
I've been accused of being a right-wing fascist by the left because I condemn attitudes, remarks and behaviour that I consider to be reverse racist, heterophobic, misandrist and so on.
The problem is NOT 'political correctness' which with all its faults at least started out as a genuine attempt to try and get bigoted people to at least show some manners.
The problem is with intolerance and the attempt to enforce attitudes and behaviour on people.
That, whether the extremism and intolerance comes from left or right, I'll fight till the day I die.
To me this is a fundamental value and one of the things that makes the West (with all its faults) vastly preferable to any other region of the world.
It's our liberal values of freedom, tolerance and fairness that make our civilization worth fighting for.
And that's something I'll defend to my dying day.
Conservatives, socialists, misandrists, fascists, religious fundamentalists, whatever - you can all go to hell if you want to oppress people.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on May 29, 2016 5:14:12 GMT
My major problem with political correctness Big Lin is that it ONLY targets Western civilisation and the people who built this great culture. Collective guilt, fault finding and negativeness in general only helps a civilisation to self destruct.
Sure no civilisation is perfect, but no other major civilisation protects people within it's borders and allows free speech and civil rights like Western civilisation. The isolated extremists and the often traumatised people who have a certain hostility, phobia or even violent tendencies towards certain groups, religions or ethnicities are a tiny minority and a media sensation and not much more.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on May 29, 2016 17:28:22 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Big Lin on May 29, 2016 21:49:04 GMT
My major problem with political correctness Big Lin is that it ONLY targets Western civilisation and the people who built this great culture. Collective guilt, fault finding and negativeness in general only helps a civilisation to self destruct.
Sure no civilisation is perfect, but no other major civilisation protects people within it's borders and allows free speech and civil rights like Western civilisation. The isolated extremists and the often traumatised people who have a certain hostility, phobia or even violent tendencies towards certain groups, religions or ethnicities are a tiny minority and a media sensation and not much more.
That's just an opinion, Anna, and not a fact. My parents are old enough to remember the change and to be honest they all agree that with all its faults the PC approach is better for everyone. Now there are PC advocates who just want to try and avoid prejudiced people from bullying others and there are PC advocates who are intolerant bullies themselves. I have fought that mob for years and I get sick of having to explain to right-on lefties that I don't share their own privileged guilt trip just as I get sick of having to explain to right-on righties that I don't share their own indifference to the suffering of other people. I'm the last person to attack Western civilisation but to some extent it depends on which form of it you mean. For me the West only started to become civilised in around the 1600s and didn't really get there until the early twentieth century (it took Germany until 1945 to become civilised and Russia still hasn't managed it any more than Romania and Bulgaria and Albania have). What for me made the West civilised was when, slowly but surely, the values of liberal humanism became dominant. That has come under sustained attack from religious fundamentalists - Muslim, Christian, Jewish and Hindus and even from Buddhists in Sri Lanka - from Marxists and from radical feminists. An unholy alliance of extremism between the intolerant left, the intolerant right and the religious fanatics of all faiths has come together to launch an assault on liberal humanist values. Sadly, they seem to be winning;such a fragile foundation of less than three hundred years stands in danger. The enemy is NOT 'political correctness;' it is INTOLERANCE from WHATEVER the source. I will fight oppression all my life and so should all of us.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on May 30, 2016 13:31:14 GMT
Dearest Big Lin , What you call intolerance in the Western world is virtually all bark and no bite. If you joined the marines the drill sargeants would have sensed how a certain poster C. on another forum found how he could hurt you with words and done exactly that too. We have to toughen ourselves up to words that don't incite criminal acts. Yes testy and even insulting words make us stronger. That's the price for free speech and it's a safety valve for the agressions that are like it or not inherent in humanity. Western civilisation is the best we can expect for freedom, safety and well being. It needs our protection and strong borders!
|
|
|
Post by Big Lin on May 30, 2016 21:34:37 GMT
Well, in the first place your poster begs the question. Actually in most Muslim countries the practice of other religions is permitted and not persecuted at all.
And if you seriously can't see how intolerant people have become in the West even over the last ten years - and I'm talking about NON-MUSLIMS as well as Muslims - then I can only suggest you need to get out more and try mixing with a wider cross-section of people,
Living in London you meet all types and just like anywhere else they can drive you mad or you can like them.
But believe me I've experienced plenty of racial prejudice and of course several British laws forbid me to do many of the things that are traditional in the Romany culture and which hurt no one.
I've seen intolerance from religious believers, atheists, Marxists, fascists, conservatives, socialists, Greens, old, young, white, non-white.
So don't try to tell me my experience of life counts for nothing.
I'm not stupid and I'm not naive.
I judge as I find and I examine carefully before I decide.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 2, 2016 14:57:15 GMT
Here's one of many examples of why the Islamic + Western worlds are inherently different.
It's a death penalty offense in Iran for a Muslim to convert to Christianity as well as it is for a Christian who converted him/her. This shows that the Islamic world can not be compared with modern Westzern civilisation by any stretch of the imagination. The political correctness sycophants will never succeed in placating, appeasing or in any way change this Islamic mindset. These same PC sycophants would be outraged beyond imagination if just one single person in the Western world was lynched for becoming a Muslim. Outrage is appropriate here, but why the sudden silence when Muslims are executed for becoming Christians, etc.?? "Good ole political correctness". Censor truth and reality with a smile. Big Lin DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) iamjumbo @menantol kronks blc
|
|
|
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 2, 2016 15:47:34 GMT
Here's one of many examples of why the Islamic + Western worlds are inherently different.
It's a death penalty offense in Iran for a Muslim to convert to Christianity as well as it is for a Christian who converted him/her. This shows that the Islamic world can not be compared with modern Westzern civilisation by any stretch of the imagination. The political correctness sycophants will never succeed in placating, appeasing or in any way change this Islamic mindset. These same PC sycophants would be outraged beyond imagination if just one single person in the Western world was lynched for becoming a Muslim. Outrage is appropriate here, but why the sudden silence when Muslims are executed for becoming Christians, etc.?? "Good ole political correctness". Censor truth and reality with a smile. Big Lin DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) iamjumbo @menantol kronks blc Bingo!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 21:34:53 GMT
For those who have spent any time looking into Islam, the only surprise (if any) is that this is a relatively mild view of the reality of Islam. Those of Islam understand their philosophy (religion) and support it. Moreover, as with other things, the term ‘moderate’ has different meanings in the world of Islam relative to its use in the Western philosophies.
For example, the term Jihad in the West has a meaning more akin to those are terrorists who are intent on physical terrorism. In Islam it is understood that there are different levels (types) of being a Jihadist. There are those who do not enter into actual terrorist acts but support those who do with funding. There also those who practice their Jihadist requirements by supporting schools (even Western schools) by making sure that history is changed to present Islam (to Westerners) as peaceful. There are yet others who practice Jihad by lying to Westerners (something that is ethical to a Muslim).
On the other hand, many of those schooled in the West do not understand or support Western culture, and have no idea that the West is at war with Islam and has been for 1,400 years.
If this continues the West will be consumed by Islam which is exactly what Islam intends to do and has meant to do for 1,400 years.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 9, 2016 0:22:55 GMT
For those who have spent any time looking into Islam, the only surprise (if any) is that this is a relatively mild view of the reality of Islam. Those of Islam understand their philosophy (religion) and support it. Moreover, as with other things, the term ‘moderate’ has different meanings in the world of Islam relative to its use in the Western philosophies. For example, the term Jihad in the West has a meaning more akin to those are terrorists who are intent on physical terrorism. In Islam it is understood that there are different levels (types) of being a Jihadist. There are those who do not enter into actual terrorist acts but support those who do with funding. There also those who practice their Jihadist requirements by supporting schools (even Western schools) by making sure that history is changed to present Islam (to Westerners) as peaceful. There are yet others who practice Jihad by lying to Westerners (something that is ethical to a Muslim). On the other hand, many of those schooled in the West do not understand or support Western culture, and have no idea that the West is at war with Islam and has been for 1,400 years. If this continues the West will be consumed by Islam which is exactly what Islam intends to do and has meant to do for 1,400 years. I don't speak for all Muslims, but I suspect some percent are trying to save us from Allah's eternal damnation by forcing us to convert to Islam with their terror or "moderate trickery".
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 9, 2016 0:24:51 GMT
|
|
|
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 9, 2016 13:28:54 GMT
I just read a recent column by Ann Coulter. You can find it here www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-06-08.html#read_more Here are a few excerpts: Annoyed at federal judge Gonzalo P. Curiel's persistent rulings against him in the Trump University case (brought by a law firm that has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches by Bill and Hillary), Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said that maybe it's because the judge is a second-generation Mexican immigrant. The entire media -- and most of the GOP -- have spent 10 months telling us that Mexicans in the United States are going to HATE Trump for saying he'll build a wall. Now they're outraged that Trump thinks one Mexican hates him for saying he'll build a wall. Curiel has distributed scholarships to illegal aliens. He belongs to an organization that sends lawyers to the border to ensure that no illegal aliens' "human rights" are violated. The name of the organization? The San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association -- "La Raza" meaning THE RACE. Let's pause to imagine the nomination hearings for a white male who belonged to any organization for white people -- much less one with the words "THE RACE" in its title. The media were going to call Trump a racist whatever he did, and his attack on a Hispanic judge is way better than when they said it was racist for Republicans to talk about Obama’s golfing. Has anyone ever complained about the ethnicity of white judges or white juries? I've done some research and it turns out ... THAT'S ALL WE'VE HEARD FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS. I don’t want to upset you New York Times editorial board, but perhaps we should revisit the results of the Nuremberg trials. Those were presided over by – TRIGGER WARNING! – “all white” juries. (How do we really know if Hermann Göring was guilty without hearing women's and Latino voices?) You see how confusing this is. On one hand, it's vital that we have more women and Latinos on the courts because white men can't be trusted to be fair. But to suggest that women and Latinos could ever be unfair in the way that white men can, well, that's "racist."
|
|
|
Post by Big Lin on Jun 9, 2016 22:22:39 GMT
I'm surprised at you, BA. I never before heard you arguing dishonestly and comparing totally different things and pretending they were the same.
For what it's worth I don't support ANY kind of intolerance or discrimination - that INCLUDES for me so-called 'positive discrimination' or 'affirmative action.'
But to pretend that Trump has not made racist remarks is simply closing your eyes, ears and minds to reality.
Frankly I KNOW from personal experience that people of ALL skin colours or ethnicities CAN be racist.
Just as men and women can both be sexist.
Just as there is homophobia so too there is heterophobia.
And so on.
All prejudice is irrational and anyone who defends it needs to enrol in a course in logic.
|
|
♫anna♫
Global Moderator
Aug 18 2017 - Always In Our Hearts
The Federal Reserve Act is the Betrayal of the American Revolution!
e x a l t | s m i t e
karma:
Posts: 11,769
|
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 11, 2016 14:02:01 GMT
Big Lin hatred is simply wrong and poisons the person who's infected with it. Anyone who wishes harm or carries out hostile violent acts against people of different ethnicities is dead wrong. Being proud of your ethnicity in a healthy form and having a special interest in the struggles of people of your own heritage and supporting them is a positive thing. Political correctness tries to use the race card as a trump card and only people of mainstream Western world heritage appear to be vulneralable to this guilt tripping and collective blame. Admitting the fact that all ethnicities can be infected by "toxic hate infected racism" comes across perhaps as a conciliatory footnote.
Only Western civilisation suffers from the race baiting that is directed towards it. The unjustified self abasing of mainstream Western world people and their low birth rates show the progressive decline of this great people.
|
|