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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 11, 2016 14:17:08 GMT
This one world government agenda posing as a peace loving, anti war organisation has no interest whatsoever in the welfare of humanity and human rights.
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Post by Big Lin on May 11, 2016 22:30:43 GMT
I really think that's a bit paranoid, Anna. I am not a 'one worlder' and I'm voting for BREXIT when we get the chance in June.
On the whole like many ideas in life the UN was begun out of genuine idealism in the hope of avoiding another world war.
Of course it was run by a bunch of corrupt clowns but to try and present it as some kind of conspiracy is I'm afraid straight out of 'Mein Kampf' or 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.'
You and I agree on many things but fundamentally I am a believer in the liberal values of freedom, tolerance, fairness and compassion.
I instinctively distrust authoritarian organizations and regimes and if anything the UN is a bunch of weak-kneed and corrupt bureaucrats spouting platitudes rather than any kind of genuine threat to anything.
UN peacekeeping forces have been notoriously useless even when they've been staffed by relatively good people like the Dutch.
Ultimately each nation has to defend itself - if necessary by alliances with others who may not share our own liberal humanist values.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 12, 2016 1:22:04 GMT
I really think that's a bit paranoid, Anna. I am not a 'one worlder' and I'm voting for BREXIT when we get the chance in June. On the whole like many ideas in life the UN was begun out of genuine idealism in the hope of avoiding another world war. Of course it was run by a bunch of corrupt clowns but to try and present it as some kind of conspiracy is I'm afraid straight out of 'Mein Kampf' or 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.' You and I agree on many things but fundamentally I am a believer in the liberal values of freedom, tolerance, fairness and compassion. I instinctively distrust authoritarian organizations and regimes and if anything the UN is a bunch of weak-kneed and corrupt bureaucrats spouting platitudes rather than any kind of genuine threat to anything. UN peacekeeping forces have been notoriously useless even when they've been staffed by relatively good people like the Dutch. Ultimately each nation has to defend itself - if necessary by alliances with others who may not share our own liberal humanist values. I wish the UK success with BREXIT. Germany has sadly much less freedom and the people can only vote on politicans who have no chance or Twiddle Dees + Twiddle Dums. The system will never allow a fair election to escape the EU.
Lumping beliefs of "liberals" into Karl Marx's "Das Kapital" and Mao's "Red Book" without any quotes from such sources is just a baseless claim which I'd avoid. I do have a copy of Mein Kampf, but only read 2 chapters and hold it for a lot of his personal takes on history and perhaps a plan to resurrect and modernise the ancient Roman Empire. To date I have never met an adult, leftist, conservative, right winger or anyone, who cites such books as gospel. I did know a teenager who was obsessed with Mao's Red Book, but I'm sure that was just an adolescent phase.
The UN is not intended to present itself as a forceful military power at this time. It's major function is to infiltrate sovereign nations and work to undermine that sovereignity.
The UN is simply a modern day "Tower of Babel" agenda designed to slowly amalgamate + reduce mankind to a mass of intergrated, borderless consumers.
Has "tolerance" become apathy? Has compassion degenerated to the work of politically correct ever smiling sycophants?
I certainly want to be fair, but we're getting a pretty good picture of what Europe + the US will become in a 100 years if we don't restore and enforce the borders as well as expel the non citizen enemies of Western civilisation.
I very much oppose destroying human integrity and classifying some as forever collectively guilty of real or perceived wrongs and encouraging others to infect themselves with the "entitlement mentality".
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 21, 2016 12:28:59 GMT
I really think that's a bit paranoid, Anna. I am not a 'one worlder' and I'm voting for BREXIT when we get the chance in June. On the whole like many ideas in life the UN was begun out of genuine idealism in the hope of avoiding another world war. Of course it was run by a bunch of corrupt clowns but to try and present it as some kind of conspiracy is I'm afraid straight out of 'Mein Kampf' or 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.' You and I agree on many things but fundamentally I am a believer in the liberal values of freedom, tolerance, fairness and compassion. I instinctively distrust authoritarian organizations and regimes and if anything the UN is a bunch of weak-kneed and corrupt bureaucrats spouting platitudes rather than any kind of genuine threat to anything. UN peacekeeping forces have been notoriously useless even when they've been staffed by relatively good people like the Dutch. Ultimately each nation has to defend itself - if necessary by alliances with others who may not share our own liberal humanist values. Looks to me like Brexit is likely gonna lose. The economic case by the Remain group gained centre ground in recent weeks. The two main issues boil down to huge economic concerns by the Remain group and immigration fears by the Leave group. Some say a vote to leave could lead to Britain's break-up. The Welsh are warning of a constitutional crisis, the Scots threaten to hold another referendum on leaving Britain. Ireland is alarmed by the prospects of turmoil in its relation with Britain where 600,000 Irish citizens reside. Erecting a British EU land border will have a big impact on their bilateral trade that exceeds one billion euros ($1.13bn) a week. Many of the recent immigrants, who are more likely to refer to themselves as British than English, and the almost two million Europeans living in Britain (like the million-plus British residing on the continent) would also like to see Britain stay in Europe. Does the problem lie with Europe, or does it lie in England? Would remaining in the EU would lead to uncontrolled immigration to an already full island? The reason I think Brexit will fail to pass is that warnings of dire economic consequences concerning Brexit are reaching a fever pitch. The most interesting warning of all comes from George Soros, a man who has long preached of Europe’s eventual demise. Not only did Soros break the Bank of England back in 1992 but throughout the sovereign debt crisis he dismissed the European Union as a failed experiment. Then, a few months ago we heard he returned to the trading desk for the first time since 2008 because he saw the opportunity to profit from cracks in the financial system once again. Filings reveal Soros to be long gold and short the stock market. So what did Soros do yesterday? He wrote an op-ed telling the Brits they better vote ‘Remain’ or else speculators like him would create a Black Friday type of event, the sterling would tumble 20%, banks would be under heavy stress, and the average citizen might never financially recover. Those who follow Soros are perplexed by this newfound nobility. Why did he do it? Why did he plea for the U.K. to remain when he could have made a fortune from Brexit? There’s one plausible explanation. It’s because he likely switched. Soros doesn’t think Brexit will pass.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 21, 2016 21:59:27 GMT
I really think that's a bit paranoid, Anna. I am not a 'one worlder' and I'm voting for BREXIT when we get the chance in June. On the whole like many ideas in life the UN was begun out of genuine idealism in the hope of avoiding another world war. Of course it was run by a bunch of corrupt clowns but to try and present it as some kind of conspiracy is I'm afraid straight out of 'Mein Kampf' or 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.' You and I agree on many things but fundamentally I am a believer in the liberal values of freedom, tolerance, fairness and compassion. I instinctively distrust authoritarian organizations and regimes and if anything the UN is a bunch of weak-kneed and corrupt bureaucrats spouting platitudes rather than any kind of genuine threat to anything. UN peacekeeping forces have been notoriously useless even when they've been staffed by relatively good people like the Dutch. Ultimately each nation has to defend itself - if necessary by alliances with others who may not share our own liberal humanist values. Looks to me like Brexit is likely gonna lose. The economic case by the Remain group gained centre ground in recent weeks. The two main issues boil down to huge economic concerns by the Remain group and immigration fears by the Leave group. Some say a vote to leave could lead to Britain's break-up. The Welsh are warning of a constitutional crisis, the Scots threaten to hold another referendum on leaving Britain. Ireland is alarmed by the prospects of turmoil in its relation with Britain where 600,000 Irish citizens reside. Erecting a British EU land border will have a big impact on their bilateral trade that exceeds one billion euros ($1.13bn) a week. Many of the recent immigrants, who are more likely to refer to themselves as British than English, and the almost two million Europeans living in Britain (like the million-plus British residing on the continent) would also like to see Britain stay in Europe. Does the problem lie with Europe, or does it lie in England? Would remaining in the EU would lead to uncontrolled immigration to an already full island? The reason I think Brexit will fail to pass is that warnings of dire economic consequences concerning Brexit are reaching a fever pitch. The most interesting warning of all comes from George Soros, a man who has long preached of Europe’s eventual demise. Not only did Soros break the Bank of England back in 1992 but throughout the sovereign debt crisis he dismissed the European Union as a failed experiment. Then, a few months ago we heard he returned to the trading desk for the first time since 2008 because he saw the opportunity to profit from cracks in the financial system once again. Filings reveal Soros to be long gold and short the stock market. So what did Soros do yesterday? He wrote an op-ed telling the Brits they better vote ‘Remain’ or else speculators like him would create a Black Friday type of event, the sterling would tumble 20%, banks would be under heavy stress, and the average citizen might never financially recover. Those who follow Soros are perplexed by this newfound nobility. Why did he do it? Why did he plea for the U.K. to remain when he could have made a fortune from Brexit? There’s one plausible explanation. It’s because he likely switched. Soros doesn’t think Brexit will pass. I think we probably will lose the referendum which saddens me. But it's NOT because the Remain side made a compelling economic case; if anything, Leave made the better fist of it on economic issues. Soros is a self-serving, crooked scumbag. I couldn't care less what a no-goodnik (to use a Yiddish expression) like him thinks or what he does. The economic arguments are flawed on both sides; the doomsters and boomsters both sound like Mystic Meg rather than serious economists. We have people like Christine Lagarde, the IMF head, under investigation for fraud, pontificating; why listen to a crook like her? The two reasons why I fear the Remain camp will win are a) fear - voting for the status quo is always an easier option; b) hysteria and cynical media manipulation of the murder of Jo Cox which (irrationally) has swayed a few of the don't knows. But consider this: if we Remain, the EU superstate project will get worse. The economy of the EU will get worse. Our political freedoms will diminish further and further. It is time for us to take the path of Boudicca, Arthur, Alfred, Robin Hood, Wat Tyler, John Hampden et al and stand up for the people of Britain against our oppressors. In the words of the Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet: 'Freedom is more than a word, More than the base coinage of statesmen.'
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 22, 2016 1:14:59 GMT
Looks to me like Brexit is likely gonna lose. The economic case by the Remain group gained centre ground in recent weeks. The two main issues boil down to huge economic concerns by the Remain group and immigration fears by the Leave group. Some say a vote to leave could lead to Britain's break-up. The Welsh are warning of a constitutional crisis, the Scots threaten to hold another referendum on leaving Britain. Ireland is alarmed by the prospects of turmoil in its relation with Britain where 600,000 Irish citizens reside. Erecting a British EU land border will have a big impact on their bilateral trade that exceeds one billion euros ($1.13bn) a week. Many of the recent immigrants, who are more likely to refer to themselves as British than English, and the almost two million Europeans living in Britain (like the million-plus British residing on the continent) would also like to see Britain stay in Europe. Does the problem lie with Europe, or does it lie in England? Would remaining in the EU would lead to uncontrolled immigration to an already full island? The reason I think Brexit will fail to pass is that warnings of dire economic consequences concerning Brexit are reaching a fever pitch. The most interesting warning of all comes from George Soros, a man who has long preached of Europe’s eventual demise. Not only did Soros break the Bank of England back in 1992 but throughout the sovereign debt crisis he dismissed the European Union as a failed experiment. Then, a few months ago we heard he returned to the trading desk for the first time since 2008 because he saw the opportunity to profit from cracks in the financial system once again. Filings reveal Soros to be long gold and short the stock market. So what did Soros do yesterday? He wrote an op-ed telling the Brits they better vote ‘Remain’ or else speculators like him would create a Black Friday type of event, the sterling would tumble 20%, banks would be under heavy stress, and the average citizen might never financially recover. Those who follow Soros are perplexed by this newfound nobility. Why did he do it? Why did he plea for the U.K. to remain when he could have made a fortune from Brexit? There’s one plausible explanation. It’s because he likely switched. Soros doesn’t think Brexit will pass. I think we probably will lose the referendum which saddens me. But it's NOT because the Remain side made a compelling economic case; if anything, Leave made the better fist of it on economic issues. Soros is a self-serving, crooked scumbag. I couldn't care less what a no-goodnik (to use a Yiddish expression) like him thinks or what he does. The economic arguments are flawed on both sides; the doomsters and boomsters both sound like Mystic Meg rather than serious economists. We have people like Christine Lagarde, the IMF head, under investigation for fraud, pontificating; why listen to a crook like her? The two reasons why I fear the Remain camp will win are a) fear - voting for the status quo is always an easier option; b) hysteria and cynical media manipulation of the murder of Jo Cox which (irrationally) has swayed a few of the don't knows. But consider this: if we Remain, the EU superstate project will get worse. The economy of the EU will get worse. Our political freedoms will diminish further and further. It is time for us to take the path of Boudicca, Arthur, Alfred, Robin Hood, Wat Tyler, John Hampden et al and stand up for the people of Britain against our oppressors. In the words of the Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet: 'Freedom is more than a word, More than the base coinage of statesmen.' I agree with you that Soros is a scum bag. But he's a very shrewd and smart scum bag. He's a billionaire because of his ability to forecast world economic events and capitalize. He appears to be betting that Brexit will fail.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 22, 2016 3:57:31 GMT
This high finance elite of Plutocrats like Soros drive one world government forward. They are harming all nations worldwide.
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