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May 28, 2015 17:48:32 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 28, 2015 17:48:32 GMT
No Chris. The Hari Krishna was a cult that took advantage of many young people and ruined their lives.
I'm only a Existentialist Atheist and all I'm saying that there is no need to seek things beyond the world in which we live. Obviously all things are connected. People who seek reality through some (to me) mystical illusion miss the point that there is no such need. We are what we are and to not accept that day to day reality covers everything is (again to me) not facing reality.
It really is that simple.
Thanks for making me laugh, Chris; the idea that Menantol was a Hari Krishna is as funny as the idea that I'm some sort of fellow traveller with ISIS! Hi Big Lin, You obviously know Menantol better than I do, but it doesn't matter to me, when all is said and done, what a person believes as long as they are not deliberately trying to harm someone. We go through life gaining different experiences, and as a result, come to different conclusions, which makes us the people that we are now. I'm happy with who I am, hope you are too. I like to see people laughing.
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May 28, 2015 18:20:26 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 28, 2015 18:20:26 GMT
Hi Menantol,Are you a member ofthe Hari Krishna group?they used to go around town trying to drum up new followers. When I was using the expression the 'ordinary things' in life I meant the normal things that are part of this physical plane. I wasn't talking about how aware a person is, but that which is spiritual, and that has nothing to do with the physical plane. No Chris. The Hari Krishna was a cult that took advantage of many young people and ruined their lives.
I'm only a Existentialist Atheist and all I'm saying that there is no need to seek things beyond the world in which we live. Obviously all things are connected. People who seek reality through some (to me) mystical illusion miss the point that there is no such need. We are what we are and to not accept that day to day reality covers everything is (again to me) not facing reality.
It really is that simple.
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me.
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May 28, 2015 23:46:03 GMT
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 28, 2015 23:46:03 GMT
Big Lin - Somehow I can't see you fitting in to the typical ISIS female role. First, there is the issue of multiple wives. Next is the problem that your husband is out there beheading people who don't share his radical Islamist views. There there are those uncomfortable looking burkas. Being strafed and bombed day to day might be another discomforting issue. Big Lin
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May 29, 2015 0:19:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:19:30 GMT
No Chris. The Hari Krishna was a cult that took advantage of many young people and ruined their lives.
I'm only a Existentialist Atheist and all I'm saying that there is no need to seek things beyond the world in which we live. Obviously all things are connected. People who seek reality through some (to me) mystical illusion miss the point that there is no such need. We are what we are and to not accept that day to day reality covers everything is (again to me) not facing reality.
It really is that simple.
Thanks for making me laugh, Chris; the idea that Menantol was a Hari Krishna is as funny as the idea that I'm some sort of fellow traveller with ISIS! You're right Big Lin. I couldn't be one as the robe would get caught in the motorcycle wheels.
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May 29, 2015 0:29:45 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 0:29:45 GMT
Thanks for making me laugh, Chris; the idea that Menantol was a Hari Krishna is as funny as the idea that I'm some sort of fellow traveller with ISIS! You're right Big Lin. I couldn't be one as the robe would get caught in the motorcycle wheels. Oh, you just bend over and reach between your legs and grab the hem of the back and pull it through your legs to the front and tuck it into your neck opening and hop on that bike!
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May 29, 2015 0:32:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:32:57 GMT
No Chris. The Hari Krishna was a cult that took advantage of many young people and ruined their lives.
I'm only a Existentialist Atheist and all I'm saying that there is no need to seek things beyond the world in which we live. Obviously all things are connected. People who seek reality through some (to me) mystical illusion miss the point that there is no such need. We are what we are and to not accept that day to day reality covers everything is (again to me) not facing reality.
It really is that simple.
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds.
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May 29, 2015 0:37:29 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 0:37:29 GMT
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have a hard time focusing on anything else.
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May 29, 2015 10:22:53 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 29, 2015 10:22:53 GMT
Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have hard time focusing on anything else. That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only.
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May 29, 2015 17:15:11 GMT
Post by mikemarshall on May 29, 2015 17:15:11 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death.
But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now.
I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last.
Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty.
I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future.
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May 29, 2015 17:44:40 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 17:44:40 GMT
Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have hard time focusing on anything else. That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only. Yeah, that's why you seldom post in other articles and even then, you try and steer it to your cult topic.
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May 29, 2015 17:50:38 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 17:50:38 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death. But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now. I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last. Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty. I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future. Hi Mike. That would be a reasonable way to look at it. Too often relatives will say 'If there is a way to make contact after death, they will do it' and then there is nothing. So, you just have to wonder. I would concede that some people are more open to 'visitations' than others. I have had several experiences and our extended family has had several encounters. So it begs the question, why do those that say they will try to make contact seem unable to do so? The ones that seem to make their presence known are not the ones that said they would try to make contact.
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May 30, 2015 7:21:48 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 30, 2015 7:21:48 GMT
That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only. Yeah, that's why you seldom post in other articles and even then, you try and steer it to your cult topic. Why are you always casting aspersions? I am not on these forums to please you, but to please myself, as I get enjoyment from conversing with people. Unfortunately, just answering my mail on the different forums keeps me busy. I would love to join in the other topics. When I registered for ProBoards.net, I found myself on Chel's forum and I saw the Religion topic, so I tried my wings on that, and have been going since. I have so much mail to answer that I rarely get the time to explore. Answering mail will always be my priority, if a person takes the time to respond, they deserve an answer, don't you think?
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May 30, 2015 16:23:10 GMT
Post by blc on May 30, 2015 16:23:10 GMT
Because the shoe fits you. You don't keep it in the religion forums.
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May 31, 2015 13:13:16 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 31, 2015 13:13:16 GMT
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Hi Menantol, It may be the only thing that you know, but not I I have been through that tunnel and have come out the other end into a beautiful nature scene where it seemed to be a a lovely Summer's day. There is such a thing as Soul travel, where you visit the next dinension and I have been there.
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May 31, 2015 13:29:09 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 31, 2015 13:29:09 GMT
Because the shoe fits you. You don't keep it in the religion forums. Hi BLC , I am answering mail on a whole lot of different topics, but these are just my interests. ECKANKAR is my life. That's the difference. What's it to you anyway?
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