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Post by Big Lin on Jun 29, 2016 13:51:30 GMT
Many monoculturalists may have good intentions just like many of the more naive Nazis or Communists die. The fact is that only through tolerance and respect for other cultures as well as your own can you build or plan a safe country and a future. And 'Western culture' is hardly monolithic. If you regard 'Western culture' as being more or less defined by the values of the Enlightenment, then any kind of monoculturalism is incompatible with those values while multiculturalism is completely compatible with them. I do wish you'd stop trying to present multiculturalism as if it was the OPPOSITE of what the word means. ALL extremists are intolerant and want to impose their own belief systems on other people. Whether it's racists, Communists, fascists or religious bigots it's the same fundamental problem. ALL of them have to be fought and prevented from imposing their ideologies on other people. It's the very essence of liberalism to fight AGAINST those things. Big Lin your definitions of "liberal" and liberalism has in many respects little to do with the people who call themselves liberals nowadays. The nihilist leftists or traitors to our culture have hijacked the term "liberal" and are only interested in tearing down Western civilisation and ignoring what comes next. Look at all these fake civil rights lobbyists and SPLC like groups that are only interested in persecuting citizens who defend Western civilisation and express their views as free speech should allow refusing to be politically correct slimers. Anna, let's cut to the chase. By definition a monoculturalist believes in the superiority of their own culture and many of them want to impose their own values and culture on others. By definition a multiculturalist believes in the validity of other cultures as well as their own and NONE of them want to impose their own values and cultures on others. Now I'm not going to argue over the definitions of liberalism; I know what liberalism means to me and to most of the world outside America. But what I DO know is that authoritarianism, whatever the source, is wrong. I have fought against it all my life and always will. Left, right, whatever; either you're for liberty and tolerance or you're not. Frankly that's what matters to me. Everything else is just window-dressing.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 29, 2016 14:23:51 GMT
Big Lin your definitions of "liberal" and liberalism has in many respects little to do with the people who call themselves liberals nowadays. The nihilist leftists or traitors to our culture have hijacked the term "liberal" and are only interested in tearing down Western civilisation and ignoring what comes next. Look at all these fake civil rights lobbyists and SPLC like groups that are only interested in persecuting citizens who defend Western civilisation and express their views as free speech should allow refusing to be politically correct slimers. Anna, let's cut to the chase. By definition a monoculturalist believes in the superiority of their own culture and many of them want to impose their own values and culture on others. By definition a multiculturalist believes in the validity of other cultures as well as their own and NONE of them want to impose their own values and cultures on others. Now I'm not going to argue over the definitions of liberalism; I know what liberalism means to me and to most of the world outside America. But what I DO know is that authoritarianism, whatever the source, is wrong. I have fought against it all my life and always will. Left, right, whatever; either you're for liberty and tolerance or you're not. Frankly that's what matters to me. Everything else is just window-dressing. No Big Lin it's not about superiority or a feeling of superiority, but rather uniqueness. The community I envision would integrate people who are loyal to the community, share the ideals and have proven this with actions. A community should be like a family. This African proverb actually works in a community with shared values. Multiculturalism only bestows entitlement on people who don't deserve it. Known sex offenders and other criminals are free to prowl in multicultural communities.
The leftists multiculturalists have been rather unsuccessful in eliminating the family so they are concentrating on destroying communities with shared values. True no group calls itself the Illuminati anymore than the name mafia is used by serious groups nowadays. The original Illuminati vision does outline what multiculturalists see for mankind as integrated comsumers with no sense of heritage, religion or culture. All the sugar coating is just part of the trap.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 29, 2016 22:28:52 GMT
Anna, please STOP trying to pretend that multiculturalism means the OPPOSITE of what it does.
Multiculturalism means sharing, a 'broad church' approach and respecting the values of both the indigenous and the immigrant communities.
It is MONOCULTURALISM that is the problem whether it's racists, religious fundos or any other kind of fanatical, authoritarian MONOCULTURALIST.
Please STOP trying to distort the meaning of words into their polar OPPOSITES.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 29, 2016 23:07:08 GMT
Anna, please STOP trying to pretend that multiculturalism means the OPPOSITE of what it does. Multiculturalism means sharing, a 'broad church' approach and respecting the values of both the indigenous and the immigrant communities. It is MONOCULTURALISM that is the problem whether it's racists, religious fundos or any other kind of fanatical, authoritarian MONOCULTURALIST. Please STOP trying to distort the meaning of words into their polar OPPOSITES. I suspect you have a minority definition of "multiculturalism" like you do for "liberal".The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 6, 2016 0:02:57 GMT
A few days ago at work I meant a man who was by birth a Morrocan, but with conviction took on the German nationality and by my estimate is a better German both from patriotism and attitude than most Germans. We were talking about the European football/soccer games. He remarked how he felt it was a farce that the French national team was composed of members from the French colonies who had no desire to sing the French national anthem. We both agreed that this was not what should be expected of a national team.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 6, 2016 14:10:27 GMT
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 6, 2016 16:08:49 GMT
Just crazy and very very scary. Time for the French people to awaken and take action against this invasion and cultural disaster.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 6, 2016 16:16:26 GMT
Anna, please STOP trying to pretend that multiculturalism means the OPPOSITE of what it does. Multiculturalism means sharing, a 'broad church' approach and respecting the values of both the indigenous and the immigrant communities. It is MONOCULTURALISM that is the problem whether it's racists, religious fundos or any other kind of fanatical, authoritarian MONOCULTURALIST. Please STOP trying to distort the meaning of words into their polar OPPOSITES. I suspect you have a minority definition of "multiculturalism" like you do for "liberal".The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dictionary: multiculturalism |ˈˌməltēˈkəlCH(ə)rəˌlizəmˈˌməltəˈkəlCH(ə)rəˌlizəmˈˌməlˌtīˈkəlCH(ə)rəˌlizəm| noun the presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society: our commitment to the values of multiculturalism | the schools promote multiculturalism and inclusiveness. Only those who are wearing blinders and in complete denial could think that Muslims are going to integrate and blend into a melting pot society where mutual respect and caring are paramount. Islam is a monoculture as defined in, and required by, the Quran. In Islam, the Quran is believed to be the actual command and sayings from Allah himself, and not what some men may have written about him. Islam isn't ever going to be an equal partner in a true multicultural society, but it is, and will be, an infestation. The only way Muslims can truly integrate into a multicultural society is to deemphasize religion in their lives becoming more and more secular. According to Islamic purists that would make you an apostate and qualify you for the death penalty.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 6, 2016 17:17:12 GMT
DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) the multiculturalist Mideasterners have a higher than normal crime rate. They often learn the most dumbed down version of the host country's language imaginable. It's bad enough that a lot of "English" speakers can't formulate a sentence without the f-word and other gutter talk in it. It's a joke to call trashy talking multicultural immigrants an einrichment to any culture.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 6, 2016 18:05:17 GMT
Yes Anna, I completely agree.
About five or six years ago, we spent a week at Marriott's Village d'lli-de-france which is in the Paris outer suburbs close to Disneyworld. Didn't have much of an evening meal one day and got hungry for a late snack. Took off driving some back roads with no particular destination in mind, just looking for a cafe, crepe, or sandwich shop. I found one but didn't realize I'd driven into an entirely Muslim neighborhood. I had a snack but it was uncomfortable. There were a couple Muslim men there who glared at me clearly thinking that I didn't belong there.
My personal encounters with Muslims have reinforced the belief that theirs tends to be a compartmentalized society rather than an open one.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 12, 2016 1:44:35 GMT
Islam shows that multiculturalism doesn't work.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 19, 2016 8:53:14 GMT
These Jihadists will take over Europe in a few decades. Their high birth rates will ensure this. I do like the 8 minute mark in the video above where a young marital arts master defends his girl friend against a gang of North African Muslims. DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) @menantol iamjumbo
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 19, 2016 13:35:06 GMT
These Jihadists will take over Europe in a few decades. Their high birth rates will ensure this. I do like the 8 minute mark in the video above where a young marital arts master defends his girl friend against a gang of North African Muslims. DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) @menantol iamjumbo Wow! That martial arts guy is really good and he made them pay. What a problem Sweden has and they've brought it on themselves with loopy left-wing leadership.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 19, 2016 18:24:16 GMT
Why does the left expect us to tolerate intolerant cultures like that of Iran? Will moral relativism be the end of our culture? Find out as Andrew Klavan explains the dangers of multiculturalism. www.pjtv.com
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 12, 2017 14:34:31 GMT
If they were really refugees, they'd be coming with families including women and children. But when the so called refugees are primarily able bodied young men leaving wives and children behind to fend for themselves in dangerous territory, then they're migrants not refugees.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 12, 2017 21:45:16 GMT
I was sitting at a long stop light yesterday, thinking about what I could do to keep busy during retirement, minding my own business and patiently waiting for the light to turn green, even though there was no on-coming traffic. An old Nissan full of bearded, young, loud Muslims, shouting anti-American slogans, with a half-burned American Flag duct-taped on the trunk of their car, and a “Remember 9-11” slogan spray painted on the side, stopped next to me. Suddenly they yelled, "Alluhu Akbar! Praise Allah! Death to America” and took off before the light changed. Out of nowhere an 18-wheeler truck came speeding through the intersection and ran directly over their car, crushing it completely and killing everyone in it. For several minutes I sat in my car thinking to myself, “Man! . . . that could have been me!” So today, bright and early, I went out and got a job as a truck driver!
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Post by mikemarshall on Mar 12, 2017 22:50:45 GMT
If they were really refugees, they'd be coming with families including women and children. But when the so called refugees are primarily able bodied young men leaving wives and children behind to fend for themselves in dangerous territory, then they're migrants not refugees. Genuine refugees are simply glad to have found safety. They are grateful to their hosts for taking them in. Those who seek to enter another country to destroy it are NOT refugees. They are invaders and should be treated as such.
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