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Post by toetapping on Jun 27, 2015 0:32:12 GMT
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Post by toetapping on Jun 27, 2015 23:27:54 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 28, 2015 13:43:14 GMT
Hi Anna, I agree with everything that you have said and the Light and Sound is indeed the two aspects of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit being the Voice of God. It was the Voice of God that spoke everything into being, " Let there be light and there was light " Without light, everything dies. If things weren't the way that they are, we woudn't be able to communicate with each other through sound. So we do rely on both these aspects of the Holy Spirit I do not think that BLC had the right to say that I am following a false God, when in reality there is only one Creator and that is who I follow, even Interested Bob pointed that out in his post that BLC was remiss in saying what she did. Thankyou for your post. BLC has her own personal relationship with God and maybe her path is different. It's like we're all chess pieces and God moves us differently. The best we can do is try to grow spiritually and our awareness and perspectives will expand. I'm not easy to offend so Atheists, the my way or no way people, etc. don't offend me.
Baraka ba shad! Hi Anna, everything that you have said is ofcourse true. We are all following the path in life that we have earned, and therefore is exactly where we are meant to be. I understand that. No one takes anything away from another. I appreciate your posts. May the Blessings be. With ECK love, Chris.
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Jun 28, 2015 14:10:50 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 28, 2015 14:10:50 GMT
I have found that statement quite true Toe tapping.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 28, 2015 14:16:11 GMT
That is what we all should be doing Toe tapping.
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Post by blc on Jun 28, 2015 18:08:01 GMT
BLC has her own personal relationship with God and maybe her path is different. It's like we're all chess pieces and God moves us differently. The best we can do is try to grow spiritually and our awareness and perspectives will expand. I'm not easy to offend so Atheists, the my way or no way people, etc. don't offend me.
Baraka ba shad! Hi Anna, everything that you have said is ofcourse true. We are all following the path in life that we have earned, and therefore is exactly where we are meant to be. I understand that. No one takes anything away from another. I appreciate your posts. May the Blessings be. With ECK love, Chris. We all are not. Some might be following a path they earned, but some of us do not believe that. I do not believe in predestination. I believe in free will.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 29, 2015 7:03:25 GMT
Hi Anna, everything that you have said is ofcourse true. We are all following the path in life that we have earned, and therefore is exactly where we are meant to be. I understand that. No one takes anything away from another. I appreciate your posts. May the Blessings be. With ECK love, Chris. We all are not. Some might be following a path they earned, but some of us do not believe that. I do not believe in predestination. I believe in free will. [br Hi BLC, I hold no animosity against anyone, including you I do remember you going to the trouble of decorating the Xmas tree on Chelonian's forum just so I could save it in the photo album of my IPhone, so I would have no reason to dislike you. But it seems we don't see eye to eye on some things. I respect everyone's belief, so I am not trying to convert anyone to my belief. Just letting people know what it is that I do believe so I'm not deliberately trying to upset anyone. Freewill will always rule for all of us, but because my belief is different from any others on this forum or any forum for that matter. We are having difficulties because of that I am an ECKist so I'm always going to give my viewpoint coloured by what I believe, that is inevitable. As I believe in reincarnation it seems that people are being upset at the mere mention of the word, but to explain certain things I have to also mention reincarnation.
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Post by blc on Jun 29, 2015 9:06:15 GMT
We all are not. Some might be following a path they earned, but some of us do not believe that. I do not believe in predestination. I believe in free will. [br Hi BLC, I hold no animosity against anyone, including you I do remember you going to the trouble of decorating the Xmas tree on Chelonian's forum just so I could save it in the photo album of my IPhone, so I would have no reason to dislike you. But it seems we don't see eye to eye on some things. I respect everyone's belief, so I am not trying to convert anyone to my belief. Just letting people know what it is that I do believe so I'm not deliberately trying to upset anyone. Freewill will always rule for all of us, but because my belief is different from any others on this forum or any forum for that matter. We are having difficulties because of that I am an ECKist so I'm always going to give my viewpoint coloured by what I believe, that is inevitable. As I believe in reincarnation it seems that people are being upset at the mere mention of the word, but to explain certain things I have to also mention reincarnation. Right, you mention something that can NOT be proved to try and explain the unprovable! The rest of us are posting what we believe, in response to what you post. If you are talking about YOU, then don't say ALL.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 29, 2015 10:32:55 GMT
[br Hi BLC, I hold no animosity against anyone, including you I do remember you going to the trouble of decorating the Xmas tree on Chelonian's forum just so I could save it in the photo album of my IPhone, so I would have no reason to dislike you. But it seems we don't see eye to eye on some things. I respect everyone's belief, so I am not trying to convert anyone to my belief. Just letting people know what it is that I do believe so I'm not deliberately trying to upset anyone. Freewill will always rule for all of us, but because my belief is different from any others on this forum or any forum for that matter. We are having difficulties because of that I am an ECKist so I'm always going to give my viewpoint coloured by what I believe, that is inevitable. As I believe in reincarnation it seems that people are being upset at the mere mention of the word, but to explain certain things I have to also mention reincarnation. Right, you mention something that can NOT be proved to try and explain the unprovable! The rest of us are posting what we believe, in response to what you post. If you are talking about YOU, then don't say ALL. Hi BLC, every person has been given the freedom of choice, that's what freewill is. Just because I and others believe in Reincarnation that doesn't mean to say that there is no freewill. There is freedom of choice in every incarnation. What you think is predestination is just the Karma that we all accrue because of prior free choices that were put into action and hasn't been resolved, like I have said before, You reap what you sow. I will not be answering any more posts to do with ECKANKAR because apparentlly too many people are getting upset and that was not what I expected to happen when I started discussing the thread on Religion. When I am talking about mysef and I use the term all, it includes all ECKists.we believe the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 17:36:17 GMT
Chris, you may not mean to do so, but you certainly give the appearance of taking disagreement with your comments as being upset. Others can speak for themselves but I cannot get upset about something I do not believe to be true.
I do find it disappointing when individuals who profess to enter into dialog are really only regurgitating a point of view with no interest in what others are saying. Certainly, if you believe in something and wish to promote it do so, but not under the dialog of give and take when it is really no more than stating memorized cannon.
That you do believe in the words of your leaders is fine and it is understandable that you cannot believe that anything else may be valid. That you accept only the words of the leaders of your group such as Paul Twitchell, Darwin Gross, and Harold Klemp is also understandable. For example, Paul Twitchell declared that “ . . . Eck is the highest of all paths to God. … there is no other way to gain spiritual enlightenment." He sweepingly pronounces that "belief in anything except the Eck is false. … ECKANKAR is the only direct path to God. … All other paths are only stepping stones into the Astral plane. … belief in anything except the Eck is false … it is not possible to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven except through the teachings of ECKANKAR. . . "
You believing that such pronouncements are real and truthful is fine, but to then assume “ . . . too many people are getting upset and that was not what I expected to happen when I started discussing the thread on Religion. . . . “ is not logical. You are saying that descent is not acceptable and that disagreement is getting upset and that is not true. That dear Chris makes your position less than credible.
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Post by toetapping on Jun 29, 2015 23:55:21 GMT
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Post by toetapping on Jul 2, 2015 5:28:54 GMT
Whatever our creed, we feel that no good deed can by any possibility go unrewarded, no evil deed unpunished. - Orison Swett Marden
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Post by toetapping on Jul 14, 2015 5:27:17 GMT
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