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Post by trubble on Apr 7, 2009 22:24:24 GMT
Do you ever wonder if you're funding something else a bit more serious than tax evasion?? We've all seen the scare mongering adverts Trubb... "Alph buys his tobacco off frank, who buys it off Nigerian drug dealers who buy it from Algerian people traffikers etc"But hey, if I buy my smokes from the government, I am funding corrupt, dirty scum anyways, so I'll go with the scum who provide my tobacco at more competitve prices. AH And then complain about the scum you fund and shout for the government to do something about them? ;D
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Apr 7, 2009 22:36:19 GMT
So, you agree that the French government are scum then? This is good. (My mate actually gets most of my illicit tobacco, from his mate who makes regular runs to Frogsville for it). AH
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Post by trubble on Apr 7, 2009 23:17:21 GMT
So, you agree that the French government are scum then? This is good. (My mate actually gets most of my illicit tobacco, from his mate who makes regular runs to Frogsville for it). AH So what are you funding? Your mate's small business? You're a philanthropist now? I have no choice but to believe you. Only you know your sordid doings! ;D
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Post by Liberator on Apr 8, 2009 2:43:12 GMT
You know how it goes - The filthy government has not right to tax us, just to provide defence and roads and police for free, so me buying fags from some geezer that got them from some other geezer that smashed some other bloke's head in to steal the container is striking a blow for public freedom against those bastards that took our money to murder Iraqi children There'a no difference at all between hijacking a lorry and imposing a tax - the hijacker is just more honest. Tax is only what politicians use to pocket for themselves, right? Bring it on David Icke
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 8, 2009 10:44:09 GMT
You know how it goes - The filthy government has not right to tax us, just to provide defence and roads and police for free, so me buying fags from some geezer that got them from some other geezer that smashed some other bloke's head in to steal the container is striking a blow for public freedom against those bastards that took our money to murder Iraqi children There'a no difference at all between hijacking a lorry and imposing a tax - the hijacker is just more honest. Tax is only what politicians use to pocket for themselves, right? Bring it on David Ickewrong! you should be happy to pay taxes for the legitimate services of government, provided that the tax affects EVERYONE. obviously, there is nothing unfair about the income tax since everyone must pay it. there is nothing RIGHT with taxes on cigarettes since the tax is only paid by a minority, and in most cases, the services have nothing to do with cigarettes to begin with. the 62 cent extortion fee added by the u.s. government this month is going to be used to pay for healthcare for children. although that is laudible, there is NO legitimate reason to raise taxes on cigarettes to fund it
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Post by mouse on Apr 9, 2009 8:06:50 GMT
Do you ever wonder if you're funding something else a bit more serious than tax evasion?? We've all seen the scare mongering adverts Trubb... "Alph buys his tobacco off frank, who buys it off Nigerian drug dealers who buy it from Algerian people traffikers etc"But hey, if I buy my smokes from the government, I am funding corrupt, dirty scum anyways, so I'll go with the scum who provide my tobacco at more competitve prices. AH well said alpha...spot on
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Post by trubble on Apr 9, 2009 17:53:32 GMT
We've all seen the scare mongering adverts Trubb... "Alph buys his tobacco off frank, who buys it off Nigerian drug dealers who buy it from Algerian people traffikers etc"But hey, if I buy my smokes from the government, I am funding corrupt, dirty scum anyways, so I'll go with the scum who provide my tobacco at more competitve prices. AH well said alpha...spot on Anything BUT spot on. It's an argument that is seeking to justify paying a cheaper price and that's all it does, in other words, an excuse. If the mate's cigarettes were more expensive than the taxed ones you wouldn't see the argument made at all. Alph says he knows where his pennies go - I can't argue with that because I can't prove any different. The fact remains that the illegal cigarette trade is regularly proved to support other criminality that is far more serious than a tax dodge. You and Alph are tax dodgers and that's why you defend the sale of cheap cigarettes. Canada - cheap cigarettes fund drug gangsEngland- Cheap cigarettes fund terrorism
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Post by everso on Apr 28, 2009 0:11:18 GMT
Double edged sword though; by upping the price we will get some people to stop smoking but we put a multi million dollar business out of work and then we lose revenue and employment. No clear answer what to do except let the people smoke but sign a waiver that any health care costs incured because of their habit will not be covered and they can sit and die if they can't pay. I smoked for thirty five years so know the whole deal of smoking and it's grip on one's life.Me too, chefmate. I started smoking at 13 and quit at 41. Best thing I ever did. The scary thing is that the older you get the more people you know who have died of a smoking related illness. I've lost count of the people in my family who've died because they smoked.
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Post by porkypie on Apr 28, 2009 6:12:59 GMT
well said alpha...spot on Anything BUT spot on. It's an argument that is seeking to justify paying a cheaper price and that's all it does, in other words, an excuse. If the mate's cigarettes were more expensive than the taxed ones you wouldn't see the argument made at all. Alph says he knows where his pennies go - I can't argue with that because I can't prove any different. Hypocrites R US. co .uk porky The fact remains that the illegal cigarette trade is regularly proved to support other criminality that is far more serious than a tax dodge. You and Alph are tax dodgers and that's why you defend the sale of cheap cigarettes. Canada - cheap cigarettes fund drug gangsEngland- Cheap cigarettes fund terrorism
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Post by porkypie on Apr 28, 2009 6:14:47 GMT
Anything BUT spot on. It's an argument that is seeking to justify paying a cheaper price and that's all it does, in other words, an excuse. If the mate's cigarettes were more expensive than the taxed ones you wouldn't see the argument made at all. Alph says he knows where his pennies go - I can't argue with that because I can't prove any different. The fact remains that the illegal cigarette trade is regularly proved to support other criminality that is far more serious than a tax dodge. You and Alph are tax dodgers and that's why you defend the sale of cheap cigarettes. Canada - cheap cigarettes fund drug gangsEngland- Cheap cigarettes fund terrorismHypocrites R US. co .uk porky
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Post by clemiethedog on Apr 28, 2009 11:55:13 GMT
One would expect more cigarettes available on the black market.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 29, 2009 19:35:20 GMT
Well, there are a lot of people who regularly travel to countries where it's cheaper and bring them back to sell them. There's even a shop where I live that does that (though the supply is a bit variable).
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Post by fretslider on Apr 30, 2009 21:40:29 GMT
Well, there are a lot of people who regularly travel to countries where it's cheaper and bring them back to sell them. There's even a shop where I live that does that (though the supply is a bit variable). There is another side to this - public health. When you consider that rolling tobacco is way much more harmful than a packet of (filtered) cigarettes, you wonder why the former is around half the price of the latter - don't you?
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