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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 11:20:00 GMT
what did that kind of thing get us? abraham was married to sarah, who gave birth to israel, but he had hagar as a concubine, and it was his screwing her that brought us ishmael and the arabs. had abraham not done wrong, we would have a peaceful world today. someone else would have messed it up probably. humans, by definition, are evil. there will always be a few who try to practice it. of course, since most don't, the practice is limited. in this situation, it created an ethnicity which has chosen to practice its evil all over the world, but particularly in the region which they have stolen from the rightful owners
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 11:23:03 GMT
why not? the pc lunatics love deviance. no perversion is any worse than any other. anyone who advocates homosexuality, is obviously fine with polygamy, bestiality, and any other deviance someone dreams up. oh come on!!! I have no problem with polygamy if there are no children involved in marriages; I think Sister Wives is a good depiction of the lifestyle. I might endorse polygamy but certainly do NOT endorse bestiality or other deviances. How can we deny a polygamous marriage? What grounds are there? Oh wait, if we change the wording of marriage then we have to allow gay marriage and some people can't handle that. REALITY hon. marriage is a union between ONE man and ONE woman, period. all the moronic caterwauling in the world can never change that irrefutable FACT end of story
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 11:27:14 GMT
Well, a lot of the Old Testament patriarchs had more than one wife. Aren't the people of Israel supposed to be descended from Jacob's second wife Rachel? Who are the descendants of his first wife Leah, I wonder? Anyway, didn't Abraham have four fathers? Or was that forefathers? obviously, you can only have one father. technically, now, it is possible to have two mothers, but realistically, even a surrogate is not your real mother. what people did in the old testament isn't relevant to today. the law was fulfilled when jesus came. nonetheless, what does it say in ruth? for this cause shall a man leave his mother, and cling to his wife, forsaking ALL others. the "all" is self explanatory
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 11:35:43 GMT
since that is NOT what marriage is, it max nix. marriage is simply TWO people of the opposite sex publicly proclaiming their love, devotion, and loyalty to each other, FORSAKING ALL OTHERS But there has to be a reason why it should only be open to this model of relationship, else you might as well be arbitrarily disallowing ginger people to marry for no specified reason. of course there's a reason. in the first place, sex is for procreation. the fact that it is practiced for recreation does not change that fact. marriage is to produce a family. again, the fact that people marry and never have a family does not change the reality. the simple FACT is that unless a union is capable of producing a family, it cannot, and never will, be a marriage. in the case of polygamy, as i said, it is evil for the simple reason that it is an absolute impossibility for anyone to equally love more than one spouse in exactly the way that marriage requires. that fact, in and of itself, makes polygamy wrong. the pedophillia that is synonymous with polygamy exacerbates it even more.
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 11:39:34 GMT
I really really like the idea of having 4 or 5 wives who are 22 to 25 years old and gorgeous aerobics instructors. Unfortunately, my wife says, "go ahead, you couldn't handle them." She's probably right. But I would try, try, and try again. that's just more of your insanity lad. you're what, fiftyish? NO rational man in his forties or fifties would even consider having a 22 year old around for more than an hour.
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 12:36:27 GMT
I really really like the idea of having 4 or 5 wives who are 22 to 25 years old and gorgeous aerobics instructors. Unfortunately, my wife says, "go ahead, you couldn't handle them." She's probably right. But I would try, try, and try again. here you go lad, have three of them. all you have to do is take a trip to zimbabwe 3 women in Zimbabwe charged in series of sex attacks on men By Columbus S. Mavhunga updated 5:28 AM EST, Sat October 15, 2011 STORY HIGHLIGHTS Police say the three women had 33 condoms containing semen They were charged with 17 counts of aggravated indecent assault Harare, Zimbabwe (CNN) -- Police in Zimbabwe on Friday charged three women found in possession of 33 condoms containing semen with 17 counts of aggravated indecent assault in a case that may be a break in a string of sex attacks over the past two years by women targeting male hitchhikers. Prosecutor Michael Reza told a court in Harare that the counts were for each of the 17 men who had positively identified the women as having sexually assaulted them in 2010 or 2011. The women, all of them in their mid-20s, were arrested Sunday in Gweru, about 300 kilometers (186 miles) south of Harare, when their car was involved in an accident. Police found the condoms in the women's car. Police appealed to any other victims to inform police. The three were taken Wednesday by police to Harare. "Since Monday, 17 men came and positively identified the women as having raped them," said a police official in Harare who refused to be identified. "Most of the men said the women would offer a drink either laced with something to tranquilize them or were forced at gunpoint." Watch Ruparanganda, a professor of sociology at the University of Zimbabwe said : "Some sections of the society use these sperm for ritual purposes. The thinking is that it can be used for regeneration of life since they are source of life (biologically). Some people think that they can have their bad luck gone by using semen. I am sure that explains all this we have been witnessing (men being forced)." The prosecution identified the suspects as Rosemary Chakwizira, 24, Sophie Nhokwara, 26, and her sister, Netsai Nhokwara, 24. They were to be held in custody until their next appearance, set for October 28, when more charges may be filed. "We might have had more victims come identify these women," said the police source.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 15, 2011 13:16:42 GMT
But there has to be a reason why it should only be open to this model of relationship, else you might as well be arbitrarily disallowing ginger people to marry for no specified reason. What are ginger people? Redheads.
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Post by Synonym on Oct 15, 2011 13:50:57 GMT
in the case of polygamy, as i said, it is evil for the simple reason that it is an absolute impossibility for anyone to equally love more than one spouse in exactly the way that marriage requires. Says who? Is it impossible to love more than one parent equally, or more than one child?
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 15, 2011 17:27:03 GMT
in the case of polygamy, as i said, it is evil for the simple reason that it is an absolute impossibility for anyone to equally love more than one spouse in exactly the way that marriage requires. Says who? Is it impossible to love more than one parent equally, or more than one child? i never said anything even remotely close. there is no similarity romantic love is not the same as filial love. obviously, you can love your two parents equally, but not even with the same love as you love your siblings equally.
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Post by Synonym on Oct 15, 2011 19:43:54 GMT
But how are you so certain that romantic love cannot be equally divided in the same way as other forms can be?
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 16, 2011 8:32:24 GMT
But how are you so certain that romantic love cannot be equally divided in the same way as other forms can be? i would certainly hope that you would love your spouse differently than you love your kids
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Oct 18, 2011 23:28:11 GMT
What is love? I think that's a word that's overused.
I love my grandchildren. I love my wife. I love my sisters. But, as Jumbo says, those loves are very different.
I also love (lust for) the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders that I saw on TV last Sunday. Oh my god. They're awesome.. I'm having sex fantasies just thinking about them.
So love is a blanket term used to describe a variety of human emotions from lust to whatever.
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 19, 2011 12:18:43 GMT
What is love? I think that's a word that's overused. I love my grandchildren. I love my wife. I love my sisters. But, as Jumbo says, those loves are very different. I also love (lust for) the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders that I saw on TV last Sunday. Oh my god. They're awesome.. I'm having sex fantasies just thinking about them. So love is a blanket term used to describe a variety of human emotions from lust to whatever. the cowboys HAVE to have super hot cheerleaders to keep your mind off tony romo, and the game
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Post by Synonym on Oct 19, 2011 18:10:12 GMT
But how are you so certain that romantic love cannot be equally divided in the same way as other forms can be? i would certainly hope that you would love your spouse differently than you love your kids I agree with you that there are different kinds of love. What I want to know is how you can be so sure that romantic love cannot be divided equally as the other forms can be.
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 20, 2011 10:36:03 GMT
i would certainly hope that you would love your spouse differently than you love your kids I agree with you that there are different kinds of love. What I want to know is how you can be so sure that romantic love cannot be divided equally as the other forms can be. it's simply the nature of romantic love. obviously, someone can lust after another besides their spouse, but cannot love them equally. anyone who leaves their spouse for someone else, obviously does not love their spouse, at all, but especially not as much as they think they love the other one.
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Post by Lauren on Oct 24, 2011 13:03:54 GMT
I would never consent to enter into a polygamous relationship, but if the consenting adults don't care -- why should I? No one is doing anything wrong.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 24, 2011 17:20:23 GMT
Lauren, that's how I feel. As long as it's consenting adults I'm not that bothered what they get up to.
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Post by arizonavet1 on Oct 25, 2011 20:05:44 GMT
why not? the pc lunatics love deviance. no perversion is any worse than any other. anyone who advocates homosexuality, is obviously fine with polygamy, bestiality, and any other deviance someone dreams up. Hiya Jim... Are you sure about this one? I for one do not want the government involved with marriage in any way. It's between your mate(s) and yourself....possibly your preacher/priest. Contracts should be forced on mothers & fathers at birth...solely to provide for the child. What is "deviant"? Would that be oral sex? Would that be anything except the missionary position? Like has been noted here before. Homosexuality IS an abomination in the Bible.... Polygamy is ORDERED in the Bible....some difference eh? Sex with animals is a health hazard....and beggars the question, "is the animal in compliance"? Sex with first cousins is downright wrong & dangerous....because of the child being born retarded.... I don't see all these "deviations" as being the same at all. Who cares how many wives or husbands ANYONE has.....nobody's business but their own.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 20:34:01 GMT
I can't see the attraction. Well for the man maybe. Why would any woman want to share a man with other women? it's hard to believe.
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Post by pipsqueak on Oct 25, 2011 21:24:37 GMT
I can't see the attraction. Well for the man maybe. Why would any woman want to share a man with other women? it's hard to believe. to get shot of him for a while, perhaps.
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