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Post by trubble on Jun 29, 2011 11:19:04 GMT
uk.news.yahoo.com/us-inmates-40-years-solitary-must-end-amnesty-000047090.htmlUS inmates' 40 years in solitary must end: Amnesty AFPBy Jaime Razuri | AFP – Tue, Jun 7, 2011 Two US prisoners who have been held in solitary confinement for nearly 40 years should have their isolation ended immediately, Amnesty International said Tuesday. Albert Woodfox, 64, and Herman Wallace, 69, have been held in solitary at Louisiana State Penitentiary ever since they were convicted of murdering a prison guard in 1972, the London-based human rights group said. Their four-decade ordeal "is cruel and inhumane and a violation of the US's obligations under international law," said Guadalupe Marengo, Amnesty's Americas deputy director. "We are not aware of any other case in the United States where individuals have been subjected to such restricted human contact for such a prolonged period of time." The pair are suing the Louisiana authorities claiming that their prolonged isolation is "cruel and unusual punishment" and so violates the US constitution. "The treatment of these men by the state of Louisiana is a clear breach of US commitment to human rights," said Marengo. "Their cases should be reviewed as a matter of urgency, and while that takes place authorities must ensure that their treatment complies with international standards for the humane treatment of prisoners." Amnesty said the men were confined to their cells, measuring two metres (6.5 feet) by three metres, for 23 hours a day, and have never been allowed to work or have access to education. I'm confused because they seem to have been moved to a dorm in 2008.... Wallace and Woodfox, who are both in their 60s, will now get to see each other face-to-face. But they will also wake up every day in the same dorm room as 17 other maximum security inmates one-third their age..... and seem to be still there.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 29, 2011 14:02:42 GMT
uk.news.yahoo.com/us-inmates-40-years-solitary-must-end-amnesty-000047090.htmlUS inmates' 40 years in solitary must end: Amnesty AFPBy Jaime Razuri | AFP – Tue, Jun 7, 2011 Two US prisoners who have been held in solitary confinement for nearly 40 years should have their isolation ended immediately, Amnesty International said Tuesday. Albert Woodfox, 64, and Herman Wallace, 69, have been held in solitary at Louisiana State Penitentiary ever since they were convicted of murdering a prison guard in 1972, the London-based human rights group said. Their four-decade ordeal "is cruel and inhumane and a violation of the US's obligations under international law," said Guadalupe Marengo, Amnesty's Americas deputy director. "We are not aware of any other case in the United States where individuals have been subjected to such restricted human contact for such a prolonged period of time." The pair are suing the Louisiana authorities claiming that their prolonged isolation is "cruel and unusual punishment" and so violates the US constitution. "The treatment of these men by the state of Louisiana is a clear breach of US commitment to human rights," said Marengo. "Their cases should be reviewed as a matter of urgency, and while that takes place authorities must ensure that their treatment complies with international standards for the humane treatment of prisoners." Amnesty said the men were confined to their cells, measuring two metres (6.5 feet) by three metres, for 23 hours a day, and have never been allowed to work or have access to education. I'm confused because they seem to have been moved to a dorm in 2008.... Wallace and Woodfox, who are both in their 60s, will now get to see each other face-to-face. But they will also wake up every day in the same dorm room as 17 other maximum security inmates one-third their age..... and seem to be still there. and that should be a surprise? they were sentenced to LIFE. that means that the ONLY way they'll ever come out is in a body bag
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 29, 2011 14:06:16 GMT
Sorry, who said they wanted, and what? what's so difficult to understand? it's quite simple. EVERY act, without exception, proves intent, regardless of what it is
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Post by trubble on Jun 29, 2011 14:10:41 GMT
and that should be a surprise? they were sentenced to LIFE. that means that the ONLY way they'll ever come out is in a body bag The confusion is Amnesty's call for them to be released from Solitary Confinement when they are currently in a dorm with 17 other people. Maybe they have been put back into solitary... (And their sentences don't seem that straightforward. The foreperson on the jury in one of their trials was the wife of the Prison Warden -- seem fair? Or strange?)
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Post by trubble on Jun 29, 2011 14:13:00 GMT
Sorry, who said they wanted, and what? what's so difficult to understand? it's quite simple. EVERY act, without exception, proves intent, regardless of what it is And it's written where that solitary confinement for life is the sentence for suspected murder of a prison guard? Nowhere. So how could they have asked for it? And have you read up on the bad regime that these inmates were at the mercy of? Maybe the wardens 'asked for it'. ?
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 30, 2011 17:31:30 GMT
what's so difficult to understand? it's quite simple. EVERY act, without exception, proves intent, regardless of what it is And it's written where that solitary confinement for life is the sentence for suspected murder of a prison guard? Nowhere. So how could they have asked for it? And have you read up on the bad regime that these inmates were at the mercy of? Maybe the wardens 'asked for it'. ? the court has no say in whether or not anyone goes to solitary. any more, it isn't called solitary, but administrative segregation, or ad seg. that is strictly internal within that particular prison. these fools were in there for murder, and chose to murder again. nothing else is relevant
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 30, 2011 17:33:54 GMT
and that should be a surprise? they were sentenced to LIFE. that means that the ONLY way they'll ever come out is in a body bag The confusion is Amnesty's call for them to be released from Solitary Confinement when they are currently in a dorm with 17 other people. Maybe they have been put back into solitary... (And their sentences don't seem that straightforward. The foreperson on the jury in one of their trials was the wife of the Prison Warden -- seem fair? Or strange?) the wife of the warden is undoubtedly a citizen of the county, or, since it's louisiana, parish. every registered voter, and now days, driver with a license, is subject to being called for jury duty. nothing strange there
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Post by trubble on Jun 30, 2011 18:16:39 GMT
The confusion is Amnesty's call for them to be released from Solitary Confinement when they are currently in a dorm with 17 other people. Maybe they have been put back into solitary... (And their sentences don't seem that straightforward. The foreperson on the jury in one of their trials was the wife of the Prison Warden -- seem fair? Or strange?) the wife of the warden is undoubtedly a citizen of the county, or, since it's louisiana, parish. every registered voter, and now days, driver with a license, is subject to being called for jury duty. nothing strange there You're joking, jumbo. You cannot be serious! Being called is fine - not being disqualified is outrageous!
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Post by Synonym on Jun 30, 2011 19:56:31 GMT
Sorry, who said they wanted, and what? what's so difficult to understand? it's quite simple. EVERY act, without exception, proves intent, regardless of what it is I'm not sure how that answers the question as to who said it, and what is it that they said.
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