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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 3, 2009 13:57:49 GMT
I'm gonna hazard a guess that none of the 40 or so pro-rapists/murderers rights idiots have ever actually had a family member raped and/or murdered...fools.
AH
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 3, 2009 13:59:24 GMT
Whether one supports the death penalty or not, the length of time this man was incarcerated on death row was barbaric in the extreme. He had already served a life sentence, and to then execute him after 25 years in prison is savagery beyond parody! If he'd been Iranian, he would've been stoned to death or hanged from a crane within 12 month's...such a civilised and non-barbaric people... AH
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Post by Ben Lomond on Mar 3, 2009 14:00:19 GMT
Whether one supports the death penalty or not, the length of time this man was incarcerated on death row was barbaric in the extreme. He had already served a life sentence, and to then execute him after 25 years in prison is savagery beyond parody! had he refused to participate in the frivolous appeals, he could have been executed fifteen years ago. HE, and he alone, chose to spend all that time in prison before being executed. you are partially correct though. there is NO rational reason for allowing trash like this to live that long. Come on!!! No-one is anxious to die, and you would blame him for doing all he could to delay that end? In any civilised country (i.e. one that does not use the death penalty) he had already served a full life sentence. I repeat; to THEN execute him was barbarous!
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 14:09:59 GMT
I'm gonna hazard a guess that none of the 40 or so pro-rapists/murderers rights idiots have ever actually had a family member raped and/or murdered...fools. AH for the most part, that's true. however, as astonishing as it is, there are actually those who are so lacking in moral values that they befriend trash who has harmed them. a classic case is someone who's mother was almost killed by a mugger, and still went to the jail playing kissy face while her mother was still in the hospital. sadly, she isn't the only one who is so demented
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 3, 2009 14:10:20 GMT
Ben, Your idea of a "life sentence" and mine are most definitely not on the same page...
Would you have been so outraged if your daughter had been his victim?
AH
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 14:16:56 GMT
had he refused to participate in the frivolous appeals, he could have been executed fifteen years ago. HE, and he alone, chose to spend all that time in prison before being executed. you are partially correct though. there is NO rational reason for allowing trash like this to live that long. Come on!!! No-one is anxious to die, and you would blame him for doing all he could to delay that end? In any civilised country (i.e. one that does not use the death penalty) he had already served a full life sentence. I repeat; to THEN execute him was barbarous! repeating an absolute fallacy will NEVER make it true. your aversion to reality does you no good service. the simple reality is that the u.s IS civilized enough to care about its citizens, and your backward, uncivilized country continues on its downward slide against human rights. as absurd as the rest of your comment, you really go over the edge with the lunatical: he had already served a full life sentence. that is about as irrational as you can get. REALITY lad!! as long as the trash was still breathing, he had NOT come remotely close to serving a full life sentence. i am fully aware that in the uncivilized countries of europe, you have the imbecillic notion that a life sentence means ten, maybe twenty years. having such skewed ideas however, in no way makes them rational
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 3, 2009 14:20:04 GMT
Average "life sentence" in the UK is around 15-18 years...the life of a murder victim is cheap over here. AH
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 14:31:25 GMT
Average "life sentence" in the UK is around 15-18 years...the life of a murder victim is cheap over here. AH it is diminishing also. hell, the germans think ten years is life. you have the imbecillic nutjobs on the so called world court making such abjectly stupid pronouncements as life without parole is inhumane. thankfully, here, we are too civilized to follow such lunatical stupidity
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Post by mindy on Mar 3, 2009 15:19:04 GMT
had he refused to participate in the frivolous appeals, he could have been executed fifteen years ago. HE, and he alone, chose to spend all that time in prison before being executed. you are partially correct though. there is NO rational reason for allowing trash like this to live that long. Come on!!! No-one is anxious to die, and you would blame him for doing all he could to delay that end? In any civilised country (i.e. one that does not use the death penalty) he had already served a full life sentence. I repeat; to THEN execute him was barbarous! I agree Ben. Further dna testing should have been done as well to confirm he was indeed the one responsible for the crime.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 3, 2009 16:50:24 GMT
I agree with Chefmate. I've seen too many corrupt cops and biased or stupid judges not to be wary of trusting them.
For what it's worth I think Anna and Jim are probably right when they say the defence team has had years to raise the DNA evidence and that the likelihood is that it would have shown his guilt.
On the other hand, it wouldn't have taken THAT long to test and at least it would have stopped the claims of innocence and allowed antis to focus on the only sensible argument they have against the death penalty which is of course the moral one.
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Post by mindy on Mar 3, 2009 18:44:45 GMT
I agree with Chefmate. I've seen too many corrupt cops and biased or stupid judges not to be wary of trusting them. For what it's worth I think Anna and Jim are probably right when they say the defence team has had years to raise the DNA evidence and that the likelihood is that it would have shown his guilt. On the other hand, it wouldn't have taken THAT long to test and at least it would have stopped the claims of innocence and allowed antis to focus on the only sensible argument they have against the death penalty which is of course the moral one. The likelihood would have PROBABLY shown guilt. But look at this-- people get executed on the fact that they're likely or probably guilty. Is that good enough? It's not for me. Just one of the many reasons I'm against the death penalty. If further dna testing confirmed that he were definitely guilty I would say he still shouldn't be executed, but at least there'd be a valid reason for it. At least we would know an innocent man hadn't been executed. Now, we'll never know. All we can do is speculate how he was probably guilty but was executed anyway.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 23:50:57 GMT
Come on!!! No-one is anxious to die, and you would blame him for doing all he could to delay that end? In any civilised country (i.e. one that does not use the death penalty) he had already served a full life sentence. I repeat; to THEN execute him was barbarous! I agree Ben. Further dna testing should have been done as well to confirm he was indeed the one responsible for the crime. no one disagrees with that. had they asked for it twenty years ago, it would have been reasonable. now, there was absolutely no rational reason to hold up the execution any longer
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 23:52:24 GMT
I agree with Chefmate. I've seen too many corrupt cops and biased or stupid judges not to be wary of trusting them. For what it's worth I think Anna and Jim are probably right when they say the defence team has had years to raise the DNA evidence and that the likelihood is that it would have shown his guilt. On the other hand, it wouldn't have taken THAT long to test and at least it would have stopped the claims of innocence and allowed antis to focus on the only sensible argument they have against the death penalty which is of course the moral one. since there is NO moral one, that don't leave them much does it?
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 3, 2009 23:54:49 GMT
I agree with Chefmate. I've seen too many corrupt cops and biased or stupid judges not to be wary of trusting them. For what it's worth I think Anna and Jim are probably right when they say the defence team has had years to raise the DNA evidence and that the likelihood is that it would have shown his guilt. On the other hand, it wouldn't have taken THAT long to test and at least it would have stopped the claims of innocence and allowed antis to focus on the only sensible argument they have against the death penalty which is of course the moral one. The likelihood would have PROBABLY shown guilt. But look at this-- people get executed on the fact that they're likely or probably guilty. Is that good enough? It's not for me. Just one of the many reasons I'm against the death penalty. If further dna testing confirmed that he were definitely guilty I would say he still shouldn't be executed, but at least there'd be a valid reason for it. At least we would know an innocent man hadn't been executed. Now, we'll never know. All we can do is speculate how he was probably guilty but was executed anyway. naw hon. the fact is that you don't have to worry about it, since we know beyond ALL doubt that he was guilty
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 5, 2009 18:56:31 GMT
I'm gonna hazard a guess that none of the 40 or so pro-rapists/murderers rights idiots have ever actually had a family member raped and/or murdered...fools. AH for the most part, that's true. however, as astonishing as it is, there are actually those who are so lacking in moral values that they befriend trash who has harmed them. a classic case is christy yarnell, who is a major thug hugger in the u.s. her mother was almost killed by a mugger, and this broad was up in the jail playing kissy face to it while her mother was still in the hospital. sadly, she isn't the only one who is so demented Sort of like that hostage syndrome where people start feeling sorry for the people who are holding them hostage (can't for the life of me remember what it's called though). Edit: Stockholm Syndrome is what I meant...or a form of it. AH
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