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Post by mouse on Aug 27, 2010 6:07:54 GMT
the horns are older than christianity,,,the cresent moon and the horns are derivatives of moon worship...which to cut a very long story short turned up eventually in the med as the bull of minos its a funny old worl...init of course horns pre date christianity - cows had tem for a start! bull worship predates christianity...the cresent moon is simply part and parcel of bull and moon worship what have cows to do with anything
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Post by mouse on Aug 27, 2010 6:08:45 GMT
I think the old Horned God was turned into Satan by the Church. . there wasnt a horned god....
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Post by mouse on Aug 27, 2010 6:11:55 GMT
So how do you explain acts of mindless cruelty ORGANISED by NON-BELIEVERS such as Pol Pot, Mao and Stalin, Fret? just part of the human condition...cruelty is inherent in man...some times wrapped up as religion..some times wrapped up as politics...and some times wrapped up as power but always because man can and will be cruel big fish have little fish upon there backs to bite em..and little fish have smaller fish..and so ad infinitum
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2010 11:06:07 GMT
The thing is it doesn't matter what religion it is.......you can always find someone that can pervert it to something strange or twisted. That is in the mind of the person.......and unfortunately they always seem to be able to recruit people to follow them. No religion, nothing to pervert. Simple. Perhaps that's right. But in many respects witchcraft resembles some of the more bizarre alternative therapies people make money out of. Those desperate enough will believe the stories of cure, dismiss the doubters and continue to line the pockets of the practitioners...who may, of cousre, believe it all themselves.
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Post by fretslider on Aug 27, 2010 13:17:12 GMT
No religion, nothing to pervert. Simple. Perhaps that's right. But in many respects witchcraft resembles some of the more bizarre alternative therapies people make money out of. Those desperate enough will believe the stories of cure, dismiss the doubters and continue to line the pockets of the practitioners...who may, of cousre, believe it all themselves. Those desperate enough..... Will probably believe anything.
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Post by june on Aug 27, 2010 14:10:23 GMT
I think the old Horned God was turned into Satan by the Church. . there wasnt a horned god.... Well I can think of two at least.
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Post by mouse on Aug 27, 2010 14:57:46 GMT
there wasnt a horned god.... Well I can think of two at least. which two ...just interested
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Post by june on Aug 27, 2010 15:06:45 GMT
Well I can think of two at least. which two ...just interested Greek god Pan and pagan Herne (sp) the Hunter.
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Post by fretslider on Aug 27, 2010 15:07:47 GMT
which two ...just interested Greek god Pan and pagan Herne (sp) the Hunter. So why did you leave me out???
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Post by june on Aug 27, 2010 15:12:08 GMT
Greek god Pan and pagan Herne (sp) the Hunter. So why did you leave me out??? And fret X
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Post by aubrey on Aug 27, 2010 17:01:47 GMT
"I laughed at the great god pan...." There was a horned god. I've got a picture of him. You can see his knackers.
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Post by pumpkinette on Aug 27, 2010 19:45:39 GMT
So how do you explain acts of mindless cruelty ORGANISED by NON-BELIEVERS such as Pol Pot, Mao and Stalin, Fret? just part of the human condition...cruelty is inherent in man...some times wrapped up as religion..some times wrapped up as politics...and some times wrapped up as power but always because man can and will be cruel big fish have little fish upon there backs to bite em..and little fish have smaller fish..and so ad infinitum This is called the "sin nature" in Christianity. I'm sick and tired of people denying it also! NOT saying this specifically about you, Mouse. Just a general statement.
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Post by pumpkinette on Aug 27, 2010 19:47:21 GMT
This YouTube video shows how surviving Albino Africans live in constant fear! The witch doctor cult responsible for the murders is constantly searching for more victims! What a bunch of ###***! If the witch doctors were Muslims there would be endless screaming from some on here.
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Post by pumpkinette on Aug 27, 2010 19:50:18 GMT
Do you include the old beliefs of ###*** like Aleister Crowley in this category, just wondering? I wish if the evils of that ###*** were mentioned on here along with some of his followers. I'm sick and tired of Jesus Christ getting bashed online and off. When I say mumbo jumbo, I mean ALL mumbo jumbo, I thought that was clear. Crowley did die quite some time ago. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Ha Notsri COOL! Am so glad you're not 1 of those who screams about the ###*** in 1 religion and not the others! ;D
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Post by mouse on Aug 28, 2010 16:28:16 GMT
which two ...just interested Greek god Pan and pagan Herne (sp) the Hunter. of course.... how ever back in the desert..... ;D
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Post by june on Aug 28, 2010 17:51:12 GMT
Greek god Pan and pagan Herne (sp) the Hunter. of course.... how ever back in the desert..... ;D I miss your point
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 28, 2010 20:10:00 GMT
of course.... how ever back in the desert..... ;D I miss your point Perhaps she means the Negev desert where the lunatic fringe of fundamentalist Judaism has a dominant presence?
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Post by mouse on Aug 29, 2010 8:26:51 GMT
of course.... how ever back in the desert..... ;D I miss your point back in the desert..was thinking of the abrahanic devils.....satan etc where the horns denote good worship,,,either via the cresent moon or the bull
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Nov 30, 2012 16:29:00 GMT
The murder of Albinos in Africa for Witchcraft Potions Continues!www.npr.org/blogs/pictureshow/2012/11/21/165652046/portraits-of-albinism-letting-an-inner-light-shine QUOTE: November 30, 2012 Photographers look for beauty in unexpected places. And in parts of Tanzania — a society that gravely mistreats albinos — photojournalist Jacquelyn Martin set out to show how beautiful she thinks they are. Tanzanians with albinism endure a particularly cruel fate. Not only do they suffer from sun sensitivity and vision problems, but they are also hunted by witch doctors who believe their body parts can be used for magic. Since 2006, more than 71 albinos have been killed in Tanzania so their bodies could be made into potions. "They go through daily prejudice and hardship," Martin says on the phone. "People around them don't think of them as humans." Angel Salvatorre, 17, buys cloth at a market in Kabanga village in Tanzania. Albinos living in a nearby protection center are allowed to go to the local market as long as they travel in a group for their own safety. Africa Tanzania's Albinos Face Constant Threat Of Attack Tanzania — which is thought to be the birthplace of the genetic mutation — has one of the highest rates of albinism in the world. Albinos account for nearly 1 in every 1,400 people, compared to about 1 in 20,000 worldwide. And because of social discrimination, albinos tend to marry each other, thereby passing their genes to their children. Martin is a photojournalist for The Associated Press who normally covers politics, but she has a personal interest in issues of race and identity. Every year she takes personal time to tell long-form stories, and this year she traveled to Tanzania for three-and-a-half weeks. She visited the Kabanga Protectorate Center — a sort of boarding school for people with albinism — for her project Tribe of Ghosts. Martin worked with a translator to interview her subjects and take their portraits. In some cases, it was the first time they had ever had their photo taken. Boys hang out by the gate guarding the Kabanga Protectorate Center, as a local village girl walks by outside, in Kabanga, Tanzania. Enlarge image Courtesy of Jacquelyn Martin "In society, they are reviled, so they really responded to being treated with dignity and being photographed in a respectful, humanitarian manner," she says. "I really think there is something special in this collection of portraits where their inner beauty shines through," she adds. "We would talk about their experiences ... and they would laugh and love that they were in the pictures." The Kabanga center and others like it protect people with albinism but also isolate them. Martin told me there is not much of a plan for the albinos beyond primary education. Because they can't live safely in Tanzanian society, she says, their prospects for marriage, a career and a normal life are unclear. Martin plans to give prints to every person she photographed. "Because they are not treated like humans, because they are not treated with respect, I hope they have a little something that helps them reflect on the beauty in themselves — to help them going forward." Martin collaborated with the Asante Mariamu organization, a northern Virginia group dedicated to raising awareness of people with albinism in Tanzania.
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