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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 15, 2010 4:23:50 GMT
Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc. were all compared to Hitler. Silly!www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38244427/ns/politics-decision_2010/ QUOTE: DES MOINES, Iowa — A billboard created by an Iowa tea party group comparing President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin has been removed. Kent Beatty, the general manager of the company that owns the billboard, says a North Iowa Tea Party representative called Tuesday night and asked that the sign in downtown Mason City be removed. Beatty says his company replaced the sign Wednesday morning with a public service announcement. The original sign showed photographs of Obama, Nazi leader Hitler and communist leader Lenin beneath the labels "Democrat Socialism," "National Socialism," and "Marxist Socialism." Some tea party members criticized the sign, and North Iowa Tea Party co-founder Bob Johnson acknowledged the pictures overwhelmed the intended message of anti-socialism.
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Post by mouse on Jul 15, 2010 6:17:37 GMT
strewth...what is wrong with these people....almost as bad as our suposed death panels via the NHS
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 15, 2010 7:16:43 GMT
What is wrong with these tea-party loons? Have they lost the brains they were born with?
They're just anarchists.
(As ever, the idea that Obama is 'socialist' renders me helpless with laughter.)
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Post by pumpkinette on Jul 15, 2010 11:32:20 GMT
Why wasn't there this outcry when there were pictures of DUBYA as Hitler all over? What a bunch of HYPOCRITES! This PHONY "Savior" has KEPT UP THE EVILS OF DUBYA! I hate these hypocrites! Why was it OK to have pictures of Dubya as Hitler? Also, as offensive as this sign is to anyone, whoever did it deserves to have freedom of speech. If you take it from 1, you take it from all! Don't people care about that?
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Post by alanseago on Jul 15, 2010 12:16:01 GMT
Has Obama invaded somewhere? I must have missed it. I believe Hitler and silly Gawge did, don't remember Lenin doing too much of it though. It has been said that Chavez was saved from invasion by Hussein. looks like another Gawge Booboo. Chavez has more oil.
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Post by mouse on Jul 15, 2010 13:47:35 GMT
dont remeber george as hitler...all incredibly stpid and childish with not one iota of similarity
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 15, 2010 13:57:39 GMT
George W. was probably shown as Hitler more often. Even cartoon figures are compared to Hitler.
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Post by mouse on Jul 15, 2010 14:20:45 GMT
why ...utterly stupid
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 15, 2010 17:15:57 GMT
The Republicans have been trying to paint Obama as a Communist or a Socialist for some time. Is he? Perhaps. I suspect he was a typical college Marxist who forgot all the idealism as soon as graduation came and the big money started coming in. No doubt he likes living in the White House with a private chef and flying around in Air Force One. No Communist austerity for Obama. Income redistribution is for other people. I don't see him wearing a military uniform like Josef Stalin or Fidel Castro either.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 15, 2010 17:30:14 GMT
For me the essence of socialism is in economics; socialists believe in state control of the market.
When Obama starts nationalising the top 200 industries (as socialists call for) or abolishes private enterprise (as Marxists argue for) then and only then will it make sense to use these words to describe him.
If the line between right wing and left wing is drawn down an axis of state intervention then yes, he's to the left of some Americans. But from a European perspective, there is not a great deal of political difference between any of the recent Presidents.
Reagan called for the Berlin wall to come down. Clinton intervened in the Balkan wars. Bush, and then Obama, has maintained an American military presence in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
The main difference i can see is around healthcare; Clinton tried to bring some scheme in, Obama managed it.
But wasn't it under Clinton that workfare was introduced and entitlement to benefits time-limited?
I can't see huge ideological differences. It seems to me that the American Presidential elections is largely a matter of judging the mark of the man, not his ideology.
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Post by mouse on Jul 15, 2010 17:43:28 GMT
perhaps a few history lessons would be in order....noting the differences between hitler..lenin..bush and obama.....i presume these are adults doing the name calling and not 10 yr olds
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 16, 2010 0:19:14 GMT
Riotgrrl said, "For me the essence of socialism is in economics; socialists believe in state control of the market."
That's the end game for Socialism no doubt. But the Socialists know they won't be able to get a Capitalist country like the U.S. into that straight jacket right off. So they put a left-leaner like Obama in the White House and they start to gravitate in the direction of more and more government control, less and less private enterprise control. The Gulf oil moratorium is a good example.
I would like to have less government, not more government.
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Post by sadie1263 on Jul 16, 2010 2:03:38 GMT
They are all idiots. Instead of any of them trying to work together to get anything done....they spend all their time doing nothing but ripping each other apart.
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Post by Big Lin on Jul 16, 2010 16:55:21 GMT
I am anything BUT an Obama fan but anyone who seriously believes that he is in ANY shape or form like Hitler ought to be locked up for the rest of their life in a padded cell inside a secure mental institution.
Of course hardly ANY of the people who come up with this nonsense even believe it themselves - they're just conscious hypocrites who hope that there are enough stupid people out there who WILL believe their lies.
I am NOT an Obama fan and would have voted McCain if I'd been American.
These dishonest wallies are basically CLOSER to Nazism and Communism than Obama or even Bill Clinton!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 16, 2010 21:14:52 GMT
There is a valid parallel between Obama and Hitler. It's not that they would govern the same way but that they were elected based on rousing speeches without the people who voted for them knowing what they were really getting. In both cases, the public elected someone who could deliver a great speech and with little or no real knowledge of what the man really stood for.
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Post by june on Jul 16, 2010 21:28:53 GMT
There is a valid parallel between Obama and Hitler. It's not that they would govern the same way but that they were elected based on rousing speeches without the people who voted for them knowing what they were really getting. In both cases, the public elected someone who could deliver a great speech and with little or no real knowledge of what the man really stood for. I think you could apply that to any politician ever voted into office in any country.
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Post by mouse on Jul 16, 2010 23:31:40 GMT
There is a valid parallel between Obama and Hitler. . the germans were well aware of what hitler stood for......to even sugest a comparrison is ludicruss..and i have no axe to grind..i dont give a toss about obama
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 16, 2010 23:49:44 GMT
Mouse - I don't think the Germans who voted for Hitler were aware of his military ambition to conquer the world. He expressed strong resentment toward the peace terms imposed on Germany after WWI and he cultivated a sense of nationalism. But I don't think the German people had any idea that he would declare war on the entire world.
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Post by mouse on Jul 17, 2010 8:05:00 GMT
i thik we will have to differ......but pleasantly so
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 17, 2010 12:33:45 GMT
There is a valid parallel between Obama and Hitler. It's not that they would govern the same way but that they were elected based on rousing speeches without the people who voted for them knowing what they were really getting. In both cases, the public elected someone who could deliver a great speech and with little or no real knowledge of what the man really stood for. I can see the point that both were demagogues. Also, both were men. Also, both were born Christians. etc. etc. etc. As June says, you can make all kinds of comparisons about people, but you are making the Hitler comparison as an attempt to attack Obama. It's over-the-top and silly. Of course you are free to disagree with Obama's policies and question his opinions. But comparing him to Hitler is just silly and childish. Churchill was also a demagogue, and a man, and a born Christian. Should we compare him to Hitler too?
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