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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 31, 2010 19:30:00 GMT
Das, you seem to be out of touch with the average middle class wage slaves. While you may benefit from setting up and managing your own retirement account, most would not be as secure without gov. run social security - and you know it. Surely you know it. Sadly, you don't seem to care. das is a republican. republicans don't care about ANYTHING other than squeezing ever more dollars out of the real people so they can fill their pockets even fuller. i'm amazed that you're surprised.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 31, 2010 23:31:04 GMT
No Jumbo. Republicans don't want to squeez any dollars out of other people. You're confusing them with the Democrats. Republicans simply want to keep what's theirs and don't want to be ripped off by political opportunists like Bill Clinton and Obama who are seeking to use their money to buy power via votes.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 1, 2010 12:58:03 GMT
No Jumbo. Republicans don't want to squeez any dollars out of other people. You're confusing them with the Democrats. Republicans simply want to keep what's theirs and don't want to be ripped off by political opportunists like Bill Clinton and Obama who are seeking to use their money to buy power via votes. of course republicans want to keep what they've ripped off from the normal people. every thief does
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 1, 2010 22:16:38 GMT
Jumbo - you are hopeless. It's hard to believe that anyone could be so misguided.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 3, 2010 15:39:22 GMT
Rep. Hank Johnson, a supporter of all things Obama, was questioning whether the U.S. should station additional naval personnel on the island of Guam when his true fears were revealed. As you watch, just keep in mind… a wide majority of people in his district sent him to Washington. He cast a vote for socialism. And he’s concerned about global warming. If you ever needed evidence that it’s time to clean out our Capitol, here’s Exhibit A: One of the more intelligent Democrats in Congress
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 3, 2010 19:47:09 GMT
Jumbo - you are hopeless. It's hard to believe that anyone could be so misguided. you are definitely misguided, but, by choice. you choose to stand on the side of the republicans bent on destroying the country, while i choose to stand on the side of the american people. we'd all hope that someday, you would wake up and get it right and side with the people instead of the enemies of the people
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 3, 2010 22:35:27 GMT
Jumbo - please watch the video that I posted with Hank Johnson's comments and explain to me how you can stand with the Democrats.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 4, 2010 8:08:26 GMT
Jumbo - please watch the video that I posted with Hank Johnson's comments and explain to me how you can stand with the Democrats. see? right there is the difference. i DOM'T stand with the democrats. unlike you, i don't march in lock step with ANYONE. i support what is best for the american people, not what is best for republicans or democrats.
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Post by clemiethedog on Apr 4, 2010 15:20:13 GMT
Hank Johnson is a dope. And that fact adds nothing to the discussion.
DAS, you are often praised by your apparent ability to rise above petty arguments, yet time and time again you imply that everyone who supports Obama is stupid. The real fact of the matter is that not everyone shares your plutocratic ideology. Some of us happen to believe that the poor, lower, working, and middle classes have been kicked in the teeth by the GOP.
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Post by mouse on Apr 4, 2010 15:39:50 GMT
I certainly don't believe there is a proper role for government in feeding, housing, clothing, and medicating citizens. That's a welfare state and that's the road to ruin for any country. looking after the poor..disbled and old is as old as human society feeding..clothing and housing those who are unable is as old as human society the amerind used to take the old/disbled/widowed into their teepees the celts into their villages the vikings into the long hut the african into kaaraal the chinese into their cities and the arab into their tents....human society has always looked after the most vunerable untill the time came for death..it is nothing new this system you see as the ruination of any country all that has happened is that now the burden is on the tax payer rather than the individual family poligamy came about by looking after the widows and children of warriors[widows of warriors likely to be young and the man of the house took sex as payment to provide more children for the tribe...BUT they were just as likely to take in an old woman who would help with the chores old men not needing to do so as he could take a younger or extra wife the human race has always been very biased in its efforts to see men gained every advantage over women
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Post by mouse on Apr 4, 2010 15:42:11 GMT
I certainly don't believe there is a proper role for government in feeding, housing, clothing, and medicating citizens. That's a welfare state and that's the road to ruin for any country. no man is an island entire unto its self...we all need help at some period in our lives from society and our fellows...think on..
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 4, 2010 17:57:29 GMT
I certainly don't believe there is a proper role for government in feeding, housing, clothing, and medicating citizens. That's a welfare state and that's the road to ruin for any country. no man is an island entire unto its self...we all need help at some period in our lives from society and our fellows...think on.. republicans don't believe john donne. of course, it is more applicable to them than anyone else. if the real people weren't there, they wouldn't have anyone to exploit and oppress in order to gain their riches.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 4, 2010 18:03:53 GMT
I certainly don't believe there is a proper role for government in feeding, housing, clothing, and medicating citizens. That's a welfare state and that's the road to ruin for any country. looking after the poor..disbled and old is as old as human society feeding..clothing and housing those who are unable is as old as human society the amerind used to take the old/disbled/widowed into their teepees the celts into their villages the vikings into the long hut the african into kaaraal the chinese into their cities and the arab into their tents....human society has always looked after the most vunerable untill the time came for death..it is nothing new this system you see as the ruination of any country all that has happened is that now the burden is on the tax payer rather than the individual family poligamy came about by looking after the widows and children of warriors[widows of warriors likely to be young and the man of the house took sex as payment to provide more children for the tribe...BUT they were just as likely to take in an old woman who would help with the chores old men not needing to do so as he could take a younger or extra wife the human race has always been very biased in its efforts to see men gained every advantage over women and none has tried harder to oppress women, aside from the muslims, than republicans
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 4, 2010 18:19:00 GMT
looking after the poor..disbled and old is as old as human society feeding..clothing and housing those who are unable is as old as human society the amerind used to take the old/disbled/widowed into their teepees the celts into their villages the vikings into the long hut the african into kaaraal the chinese into their cities and the arab into their tents....human society has always looked after the most vunerable untill the time came for death..it is nothing new this system you see as the ruination of any country all that has happened is that now the burden is on the tax payer rather than the individual family poligamy came about by looking after the widows and children of warriors[widows of warriors likely to be young and the man of the house took sex as payment to provide more children for the tribe...BUT they were just as likely to take in an old woman who would help with the chores old men not needing to do so as he could take a younger or extra wife the human race has always been very biased in its efforts to see men gained every advantage over women and none has tried harder to oppress women, aside from the muslims, than republicans I don't know about that so much, Jim. It was the Republican governor of Wyoming who signed into law the bill granted women the vote - the first part of the US to do so. He did it because he'd heard Susan B Anthony speak and she'd convinced him of the justice of the case for women's suffrage.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 4, 2010 19:18:39 GMT
and none has tried harder to oppress women, aside from the muslims, than republicans I don't know about that so much, Jim. It was the Republican governor of Wyoming who signed into law the bill granted women the vote - the first part of the US to do so. He did it because he'd heard Susan B Anthony speak and she'd convinced him of the justice of the case for women's suffrage. very true, but, he was a republican of lincoln, not the republicans of dumbya and dickey boy, beck, coulter, limbaugh, etc etc etc. polar opposite in fact
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 5, 2010 2:12:08 GMT
Helping the poor is a very admirable endeavor. I applaud all of those who choose to contribute to charities supporting the poor.
However, i don't want my government to confiscate funds, mainly from their politcal opponents, with the hope of currying favor from disadvantaged voters in order to gain and sustain power. That is the modus operandi of our Democratic Party. That's what they do. That's all they do. That's all they've ever done. They are a disgrace to their country, their family, and their pet.
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Post by clemiethedog on Apr 5, 2010 11:04:08 GMT
and none has tried harder to oppress women, aside from the muslims, than republicans I don't know about that so much, Jim. It was the Republican governor of Wyoming who signed into law the bill granted women the vote - the first part of the US to do so. He did it because he'd heard Susan B Anthony speak and she'd convinced him of the justice of the case for women's suffrage. The Republicans have changed a lot since then. They've practically disowned Theodore Roosevelt.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 7, 2010 0:48:51 GMT
If Lincoln were alive today I'm pretty sure he'd want to distance himself from the likes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats. He'd be a regular on the Glen Beck show.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 7, 2010 13:04:14 GMT
If Lincoln were alive today I'm pretty sure he'd want to distance himself from the likes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats. He'd be a regular on the Glen Beck show. you really do need to lay off those mushrooms lad. they are making you almost certifiable. you are now exactly like those chaps stumbling down the street muttering to themselves
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 9, 2010 22:24:10 GMT
Jumbo said, "das don't thing anyone should get social security. he's said so many times that, if you aren't a millionaire, you should be relegated to the soup kitchen."
Could you please provide a link to that quote Jumbo. I don't remember saying that and it is not my philosophy.
Putting up a quote like that me saying that "Jumbo believes that the government should take over and operate all of the restaurants in America along with most other business enterprises."
It's probably not exactly what you said but it is pretty close to your values isn't it?
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