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May 29, 2015 0:32:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 0:32:57 GMT
No Chris. The Hari Krishna was a cult that took advantage of many young people and ruined their lives.
I'm only a Existentialist Atheist and all I'm saying that there is no need to seek things beyond the world in which we live. Obviously all things are connected. People who seek reality through some (to me) mystical illusion miss the point that there is no such need. We are what we are and to not accept that day to day reality covers everything is (again to me) not facing reality.
It really is that simple.
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds.
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May 29, 2015 0:37:29 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 0:37:29 GMT
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have a hard time focusing on anything else.
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May 29, 2015 10:22:53 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 29, 2015 10:22:53 GMT
Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have hard time focusing on anything else. That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only.
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May 29, 2015 17:15:11 GMT
Post by mikemarshall on May 29, 2015 17:15:11 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death.
But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now.
I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last.
Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty.
I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future.
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May 29, 2015 17:44:40 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 17:44:40 GMT
Most cults are like that, sadly. You can tell those that belong to cults. They have hard time focusing on anything else. That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only. Yeah, that's why you seldom post in other articles and even then, you try and steer it to your cult topic.
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May 29, 2015 17:50:38 GMT
Post by blc on May 29, 2015 17:50:38 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death. But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now. I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last. Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty. I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future. Hi Mike. That would be a reasonable way to look at it. Too often relatives will say 'If there is a way to make contact after death, they will do it' and then there is nothing. So, you just have to wonder. I would concede that some people are more open to 'visitations' than others. I have had several experiences and our extended family has had several encounters. So it begs the question, why do those that say they will try to make contact seem unable to do so? The ones that seem to make their presence known are not the ones that said they would try to make contact.
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May 30, 2015 7:21:48 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 30, 2015 7:21:48 GMT
That let's me out in that case as I have so many interests that I can't keep up with them all. But apart from that the reason that you may think that they have difficulty in focusing on anything else is because the Kingdom of God is where they will be heading when they die, so no doubt they are preparing their next place of residence, whilst you may be concentrating on this life only. Yeah, that's why you seldom post in other articles and even then, you try and steer it to your cult topic. Why are you always casting aspersions? I am not on these forums to please you, but to please myself, as I get enjoyment from conversing with people. Unfortunately, just answering my mail on the different forums keeps me busy. I would love to join in the other topics. When I registered for ProBoards.net, I found myself on Chel's forum and I saw the Religion topic, so I tried my wings on that, and have been going since. I have so much mail to answer that I rarely get the time to explore. Answering mail will always be my priority, if a person takes the time to respond, they deserve an answer, don't you think?
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May 30, 2015 16:23:10 GMT
Post by blc on May 30, 2015 16:23:10 GMT
Because the shoe fits you. You don't keep it in the religion forums.
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May 31, 2015 13:13:16 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 31, 2015 13:13:16 GMT
I see things in a different light Menantol, my experiences tell me differently. I see myself as Soul, using a physical body as protection whilst I function on this earth plane. Who do you think that you are and what do you think happens to you when the body no longer exists? Does your awareness cease to be? So, in what way were people harmed by the Hari Krisha's? They seemed pretty harmless to me. Oh Chris it is so simple. We exist, we interact with others. At the end of life, no one knows what happens and it is of no concern to me. I mentioned int the past that twice in my life I died and had to be brought back. Guess what, that period of death, nothing showed up at all. No light, no tunnel, no anything. The only thing we know is that death comes to all of us and there is nothing we can do about it. What happens after death, or doesn't we also know nothing about it and can do nothing about it. I'm completely at ease with that reality. The Hari Krishnas enticed young people to join their cult. To give up all worldly things to the cult. Young people with not enough life experience to understand what was reaching out to entice them from life into becoming servants to the leadership of the cult. A wasted life before they could gain any life experience. That is a terrible thing to do to young minds. Hi Menantol, It may be the only thing that you know, but not I I have been through that tunnel and have come out the other end into a beautiful nature scene where it seemed to be a a lovely Summer's day. There is such a thing as Soul travel, where you visit the next dinension and I have been there.
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May 31, 2015 13:29:09 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 31, 2015 13:29:09 GMT
Because the shoe fits you. You don't keep it in the religion forums. Hi BLC , I am answering mail on a whole lot of different topics, but these are just my interests. ECKANKAR is my life. That's the difference. What's it to you anyway?
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Jun 3, 2015 15:22:24 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 3, 2015 15:22:24 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death. But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now. I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last. Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty. I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future. The thing is Mike Marshal, it is only the physical body that dies. I have been shown quite a few past lives so I know that Soul continues to be aware. You then prepare for your next incarnation. Soul is given a body that will teach it the lessons that it needs to know so that it will eventually dwell in the true spiritual realms in the Kingdom of God where there is only a state of bliss.
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Jun 3, 2015 18:45:03 GMT
Post by blc on Jun 3, 2015 18:45:03 GMT
Because the shoe fits you. You don't keep it in the religion forums. Hi BLC , I am answering mail on a whole lot of different topics, but these are just my interests. ECKANKAR is my life. That's the difference. What's it to you anyway? It derails threads. There are set threads or areas for it, that is why sites have categories. You got snotty when I asked you to please keep it in the proper area at my site and I know another admin that told you the same.
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Jun 3, 2015 22:01:52 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 3, 2015 22:01:52 GMT
Well, I am an agnostic though I have had some experiences that lead me to consider the possibility that there may be some kind of survival of death. But while I am willing to concede that may lie in the future the only life we know is the one we are living now. I believe (perhaps especially now that I am almost 57 years old!) that we should regard life as precious and live every day on earth as if it was our last. Survival of death is a possibility; death is a certainty. I prefer to play safe and live now rather than hope for some possibly imaginary future. Hi Mike. That would be a reasonable way to look at it. Too often relatives will say 'If there is a way to make contact after death, they will do it' and then there is nothing. So, you just have to wonder. I would concede that some people are more open to 'visitations' than others. I have had several experiences and our extended family has had several encounters. So it begs the question, why do those that say they will try to make contact seem unable to do so? The ones that seem to make their presence known are not the ones that said they would try to make contact. They may have a different agenda once they pass over to the other side. There are always loving relatives waiting to greet them, so they are kept busy. When I had my first out of the body experience I was only aware of the fact that I was walking down the street. I had no recollection that I had been sittig in the lounge reading a spiritual book just a moment before. When I was back in my body again I still remembered the incident and wondered what had just happened. That's how it happens each time. Whist I'm out of the body I only know what is happening then, the other is forgotten. So I'm as wise as you are. I have been to places that I have never been before, so all that I know is that it happens. There is always a reason for it happening. I have also been given information that I had no knowledge of prior to me receeiving it. I have also witnessed my own death in a past life. I found myself viewing a woman running along the top of a cliff then she jumped off, when she hit the ground, it was my consciousness that was aware, then I remember saying "I'm alright" I understood at that moment in time that when a person dies they are still alive (aware) that is why I know that Soul is who or what we are, when the woman that I saw killed herself, the Soul that left that body was me.
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Jun 3, 2015 22:23:04 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 3, 2015 22:23:04 GMT
Hi BLC , I am answering mail on a whole lot of different topics, but these are just my interests. ECKANKAR is my life. That's the difference. What's it to you anyway? It derails threads. There are set threads or areas for it, that is why sites have categories. You got snotty when I asked you to please keep it in the proper area at my site and I know another admin that told you the same. I am only beginning to understand things, so I know that I am making mistakes, but don't know how to rectify the situation. I have been going straight to navigation that takes me to new posts or to notification where I just start answering like we were chatting, that is all that I know what to do, otherwise it is just making comments about a what someone else has said. I do not get snotty, but I don't like being relegated somewhere, where the only person that I'm talking to, is you. I like conversing with different people. If I am annoying people because of my ignorance, then I guess I might have to stop answering posts, in case I ruin the thread.
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Jun 4, 2015 0:06:04 GMT
Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 4, 2015 0:06:04 GMT
I think all religious beliefs are 100% bull. There is no afterlife. Never was, never will be.
Some religions are more ridiculous than others. What's a dead man going to do with 72 dead virgins? If they're virgins when they died, they're probably ugly anyway. And who knows if they're even female.
Our world would be a better world if we could eliminate all religions. I see zero benefits and lots of negatives from all of them.
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Jun 4, 2015 2:45:49 GMT
Post by blc on Jun 4, 2015 2:45:49 GMT
It derails threads. There are set threads or areas for it, that is why sites have categories. You got snotty when I asked you to please keep it in the proper area at my site and I know another admin that told you the same. I am only beginning to understand things, so I know that I am making mistakes, but don't know how to rectify the situation. I have been going straight to navigation that takes me to new posts or to notification where I just start answering like we were chatting, that is all that I know what to do, otherwise it is just making comments about a what someone else has said. I do not get snotty, but I don't like being relegated somewhere, where the only person that I'm talking to, is you. I like conversing with different people. If I am annoying people because of my ignorance, then I guess I might have to stop answering posts, in case I ruin the thread. I don't want to continue this, and derail this thread, but you should know that I kept all your snotty posts accusing me of trying to silence you, when all I wanted you to do, was to keep the Eck stuff in the Eck thread. iamjumbo was conversing with you in that thread as well, not just me.
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Jun 4, 2015 22:46:38 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 4, 2015 22:46:38 GMT
I am only beginning to understand things, so I know that I am making mistakes, but don't know how to rectify the situation. I have been going straight to navigation that takes me to new posts or to notification where I just start answering like we were chatting, that is all that I know what to do, otherwise it is just making comments about a what someone else has said. I do not get snotty, but I don't like being relegated somewhere, where the only person that I'm talking to, is you. I like conversing with different people. If I am annoying people because of my ignorance, then I guess I might have to stop answering posts, in case I ruin the thread. I don't want to continue this, and derail this thread, but you should know that I kept all your snotty posts accusing me of trying to silence you, when all I wanted you to do, was to keep the Eck stuff in the Eck thread. iamjumbo was conversing with you in that thread as well, not just me. Hi BLC, I do try to do the right thing. I might seem that I am being snotty, but I am not, I'm more puzzled than anything else. I just don't have enough understanding of what is expected of me. I'm starting from scratch and don't even understand the Internet lingo. A lot of the time I don't know what a person means because of that. I fervently wish that I didn't upset the applecart, but it seems that is exactly what I am doing. It doesn't make me feel good, that's for sure!!! So what do I do when someone says something that doesn't match the subject matter? Does it mean that I can't answer them? I don't think I'm the only one doing it beccause I have received posts from others which had nothing to do with the title of the thread, and even I in my ignorance, have noticed this. So I am as wise as ever as to what I should do under the circumstances.?
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Jun 5, 2015 14:32:37 GMT
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 5, 2015 14:32:37 GMT
I don't want to continue this, and derail this thread, but you should know that I kept all your snotty posts accusing me of trying to silence you, when all I wanted you to do, was to keep the Eck stuff in the Eck thread. iamjumbo was conversing with you in that thread as well, not just me. Hi BLC, I do try to do the right thing. I might seem that I am being snotty, but I am not, I'm more puzzled than anything else. I just don't have enough understanding of what is expected of me. I'm starting from scratch and don't even understand the Internet lingo. A lot of the time I don't know what a person means because of that. I fervently wish that I didn't upset the applecart, but it seems that is exactly what I am doing. It doesn't make me feel good, that's for sure!!! So what do I do when someone says something that doesn't match the subject matter? Does it mean that I can't answer them? I don't think I'm the only one doing it beccause I have received posts from others which had nothing to do with the title of the thread, and even I in my ignorance, have noticed this. So I am as wise as ever as to what I should do under the circumstances.? Hi Chris, I always have to google up internet slang especially the abbreviations to understand whatt's happening. bbl for instance can have numerous meanings. www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/BBL.html There's no one size fits all in spiritual experiences and an individual's relationship with God. We are all unique and communicating on this subject is frustrating.
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Jun 5, 2015 16:38:13 GMT
Post by blc on Jun 5, 2015 16:38:13 GMT
Hi BLC, I do try to do the right thing. I might seem that I am being snotty, but I am not, I'm more puzzled than anything else. I just don't have enough understanding of what is expected of me. I'm starting from scratch and don't even understand the Internet lingo. A lot of the time I don't know what a person means because of that. I fervently wish that I didn't upset the applecart, but it seems that is exactly what I am doing. It doesn't make me feel good, that's for sure!!! So what do I do when someone says something that doesn't match the subject matter? Does it mean that I can't answer them? I don't think I'm the only one doing it beccause I have received posts from others which had nothing to do with the title of the thread, and even I in my ignorance, have noticed this. So I am as wise as ever as to what I should do under the circumstances.? Hi Chris, I always have to google up internet slang especially the abbreviations to understand whatt's happening. bbl for instance can have numerous meanings. www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/BBL.html There's no one size fits all in spiritual experiences and an individual's relationship with God. We are all unique and communicating on this subject is frustrating. Don't fall for that Anna. She's been posting for what 9 or 10 months, probably at least a 1000 posts. And internet slang has nothing to do with the what was going on but she falls back on that lame excuse every time, that or her phone. Internet lingo has nothing to do with keeping topics to their own threads that are specifically created for that topic.
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Jun 5, 2015 22:20:00 GMT
Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 5, 2015 22:20:00 GMT
Hi Chris, I always have to google up internet slang especially the abbreviations to understand whatt's happening. bbl for instance can have numerous meanings. www.acronymfinder.com/Slang/BBL.html There's no one size fits all in spiritual experiences and an individual's relationship with God. We are all unique and communicating on this subject is frustrating. Don't fall for that Anna. She's been posting for what 9 or 10 months, probably at least a 1000 posts. And internet slang has nothing to do with the what was going on but she falls back on that lame excuse every time, that or her phone. Internet lingo has nothing to do with keeping topics to their own threads that are specifically created for that topic. I wouldn't be so judgmental blc. In my personality test ( I'll post the link later ) there are nine personality types. It's a bit of a generalisation, but we have to generalise at.the risk of stereotyping to get some kind of overview. People tick very differently and uniquely and from these 9 general ways to navigate life and view the world the logic and the priorities can be very different.
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