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Post by Big Lin on Feb 3, 2014 22:50:04 GMT
Here are some links showing: a) that Knox is a psychopath; b) highlighting how the evidence against her is overwhelming and she's guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. www.scienceofpeople.com/2013/05/body-language-from-amanda-knoxs-interview-with-diane-sawyer/www.sott.net/article/260904-Signs-that-suggest-Amanda-Knox-is-a-psychopath4bitnews.com/dirtybits/signs-amanda-knox-psychopath/truejustice.org/ee/index.php(This article is far too long to post in full but it makes the following devastating points that clearly demonstrate the guilt of Knox and Sollecito as well as Guede beyond a reasonable doubt. 1 Why was Knox's lamp in Meredith's room? Why has Knox ever been able to explain that? Why have all traces of fingerprints been wiped? Who moved Meredith's body? How come the blood of Meredith and Knox were found mingled together in half a dozen different locations outside a locked bedroom door? 2 Why are there bloody footprints outside the doors of both Knox and Sollecito? Why do Guede's footprints head straight out the front door? If Knox did NOT rearrange the crime scene, who broke in and why? 3 Why have ALL the presentations in court by crime scene and autopsy experts concluded that THREE attackers MUST have been involved NOT been challenged by the defence? The True Justice article gives a very fair and detailed account of the HARD evidence against Knox and it's hard for anyone who's not swallowed her snow job NOT to feel that her guilt IS beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 0:49:28 GMT
I think she is guilty.
As I haven't followed this case from the beginning, I am unsure as to what the motive was? Any idea? Why was Meredith killed?
Or maybe a motive was not needed. That is really messed up.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 4, 2014 1:36:17 GMT
Very interesting articles Lin. Very interesting case too.
It is hard to say exactly what happened that night but Knox and her boyfriend were definitely trying to cover up and weren't completely forthcoming. Two juries found them guilty.
American public opinion is on her side but that opinion isn't very well informed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 11:46:23 GMT
For me there is only one killer , he is behind bars , the evidence against him was overwhelming and beyond a reasonable doubt , with the other two there is doubt so they should not be found guilty.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 4, 2014 16:58:23 GMT
For me there is only one killer , he is behind bars , the evidence against him was overwhelming and beyond a reasonable doubt , with the other two there is doubt so they should not be found guilty. Anyone who sticks to the real evidence and not these cheap tabloid fantasies and deceptions can only come to that conclusion.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 5, 2014 0:03:50 GMT
For me there is only one killer , he is behind bars , the evidence against him was overwhelming and beyond a reasonable doubt , with the other two there is doubt so they should not be found guilty. Anyone who sticks to the real evidence and not these cheap tabloid fantasies and deceptions can only come to that conclusion. That's NOT what the REAL evidence shows - the fact that THREE people were involved, that Guede's footprints led straight out the front door, that Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher's blood were found mingled together, that bloodstains NOT matching Guede's were found outside both Knox and Sollecito's bedrooms which were locked - the list goes on. Look at the True Justice website for a detailed breakdown of the HARD and CONCLUSIVE evidence against Knox and Sollecito!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 0:24:31 GMT
Just out of interest I watched the movie of this case just last night. It does appear that they were trying to cover up something. I know this was just a movie though.
But only they know for 100% sure if they did it or not. I just hope that the jury have it right.
The evidence does seem overwhelmingly against them doesn't it? Their dna found at the crime scene. The Knox girl goes back to the house (and for what? if not to cover their tracks?) and the fact that the store owner identified them as being the couple who came in to buy cleaning supplies early in the morning? And so on so on... so much evidence against them both. Her alibi (that she was with her bf until late that day,) went out the window too. Phone calls were made in the early hours, when she said she was asleep...
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 5, 2014 22:35:18 GMT
Anyone who sticks to the real evidence and not these cheap tabloid fantasies and deceptions can only come to that conclusion. That's NOT what the REAL evidence shows - the fact that THREE people were involved, that Guede's footprints led straight out the front door, that Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher's blood were found mingled together, I suspect your talking about the traces of menstral blood in the shower room. Traces of all the female inhabitants' blood could be found there "mingled together". The prosecution didn't find any cuts "scratch wounds" on Knox or Sollecito. Or does this tabloid site have all the evidence hidden away somewhere? that bloodstains NOT matching Guede's were found outside both Knox and Sollecito's bedrooms which were locked - the list goes on. Look at the True Justice website for a detailed breakdown of the HARD and CONCLUSIVE evidence against Knox and Sollecito! I suppose you find blood stains years that are years or decades old in any place where humans have lived. Were these blood stains identified?
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 6, 2014 22:56:41 GMT
You and I will never agree on this, Anna. What I've seen of the evidence persuades me she's guilty; what you've seen doesn't. But it's worth considering that two separate juries have seen far more evidence than you or I have seen and they have found her guilty on both occasions. In the meantime, here's a link from the US: news.sky.com/story/1204117/amanda-knox-will-be-extradited-by-us
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 20:13:55 GMT
So she will be sent back to Italy to serve her prison term?
Like it says in the article, there is no reason why she should be exempt from this. Any other person committing such a crime would have to do the same.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 7, 2014 20:50:47 GMT
Knox and Sollecito could head for a country having no extradition treaty with either Italy or the USA.
Currently Italy only has extradition treaties with following countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, The Bahamas, Bolivia, Brasil, Canada, Costa Rica, Cuba, Germany, Kenya, Lesotho, New Zealand, Paraguay, Peru, The Vatican, Singapore, Sri Lanka, The United States of America and Uruguay and the European Union.
There are 160 remaining countries that do not have Extradition treaties with Italy.
If Knox wanted a country that didn't have an extradition treaty with the USA as well, then the list would be much shorter. Most of those are either communist dictatorships, trouble spots, failed states, or third world poverty hellholes.
However, there are a few that are reasonably nice places without an extradition treaty with either America or Italy. Perhaps the most convenient and pleasant would be Croatia, just across the water from the Italian peninsula. Croatia is very similar to Italy with nice beaches, great weather, good food, numerous historical sites and great outdoor recreational areas.
Sollecito could simply drive there since there are no border guards.
Knox might find it a bit more difficult to get to Croatia. If she were on a plane that touches down in the EU, she could be arrested by Interpol and handed over to Italy. Finding a flight from Seattle to Croatia that doesn't touch down in the European Union might require a circuitous route.
The other likely no-treaty possibilities are Dubai, Bhutan, and Kazakhstan.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 8, 2014 15:03:30 GMT
Amanda Knox was interviewed on "Good Morning America".
It is truly insane that she could be convicted based on confused statements she made during a 4 hour enhanced interrogation by Miglini's investigators.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 8, 2014 15:14:37 GMT
Knox and Sollecito could head for a country having no extradition treaty with either Italy or the USA. Currently Italy only has extradition treaties with following countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, The Bahamas, Bolivia, Brasil, Canada, Costa Rica, Cuba, Germany, Kenya, Lesotho, New Zealand, Paraguay, Peru, The Vatican, Singapore, Sri Lanka, The United States of America and Uruguay and the European Union. There are 160 remaining countries that do not have Extradition treaties with Italy. If Knox wanted a country that didn't have an extradition treaty with the USA as well, then the list would be much shorter. Most of those are either communist dictatorships, trouble spots, failed states, or third world poverty hellholes. However, there are a few that are reasonably nice places without an extradition treaty with either America or Italy. Perhaps the most convenient and pleasant would be Croatia, just across the water from the Italian peninsula. Croatia is very similar to Italy with nice beaches, great weather, good food, numerous historical sites and great outdoor recreational areas. Sollecito could simply drive there since there are no border guards. Knox might find it a bit more difficult to get to Croatia. If she were on a plane that touches down in the EU, she could be arrested by Interpol and handed over to Italy. Finding a flight from Seattle to Croatia that doesn't touch down in the European Union might require a circuitous route. The other likely no-treaty possibilities are Dubai[/b], Bhutan, and Kazakhstan. [/quote] Dubai is of course a barbaric Sharai ruled dictatorship. If a woman survives a rape she will be charged automatically with having sex out of marriage-unless 4 adult male witnesses testify that she was raped by force.[/u] This really infuriates me! Alicia Gali, a now 29 year old Australian woman, was drugged and gang raped in Dubai. She woke up with numerous broken ribs. Injuries and bruises all over her body. Mrs. Gali went to the Dubai police and ended up being sentenced to prison for being raped.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 17:19:11 GMT
In the video, Amanda is pretending to cry but has completely dry eyes. No tears at all. Just saying.
I'm sure is scared and unset, as anyone would be who is due to be locked up... she mentions not a single word of the girl she murdered. Only about herself and how she needs help and how upset she is.
Well, her 'acting' is improving, better than it was a few years back, at least she has the sense not to smile at the cameras this time around...
She just does not come across as sincere. Her best bet would be to stay out of the public's eye. Really.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 8, 2014 22:11:19 GMT
The insane thing is that she got away with murder.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 16, 2014 18:00:50 GMT
People from around the world are showing their support for Amanda Knox and Rafaele Sollecito by posting photographs of themselves holding signs proclaiming the pair's innocence to Knox's Facebook page. The photos began appearing after Knox shared a photograph of herself holding a sign that reads, 'SIAMO INNOCENTI,' which means 'we are innocent' in Italian. Knox's black and white portrait came two weeks after she and Sollecito we convicted for a second time of murdering Meredith Kercher, 21, in Perugia in 2007.Amanda and Raffaele are innocent!!There is worldwide support for Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox demanding that they be declared innocent. It is truly a farce to base a murder conviction on a few confused statements that Knox made during a 4 hour "enhanced interrogation" in Italy. In the US interrogations of murder suspects are filmed and this film is presented to the jury to decide if undue force or pressure was used to obtain any incriminating statements. Not so in Italy! Shame on Italy! www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560659/Supporters-world-copy-innocent-sign-solidarity-Amanda-Knox-Rafaele-Sollecito-following-conviction-murder-charges.html QUOTE: Supporters around the world copy 'innocent' sign in solidarity with Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito following their re-conviction on murder charges 16 February 2014 Social media has been flooded with pictures of supporters of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito holding signs proclaiming their innocence Knox released a photo of her holding a sign that reads 'SIAMO INNOCENTI' last week The pair were reconvicted of killing Meredith Kercher recently Knox says she will not return to Italy for the sentence[/b] People from around the world are showing their support for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito by posting photographs of themselves holding signs proclaiming the pair's innocence to Knox's Facebook page. The photos began appearing after Knox shared a photograph of herself holding a sign that reads, 'SIAMO INNOCENTI,' which means 'we are innocent' in Italian. Knox's black and white portrait came two weeks after she and Sollecito we convicted for a second time of murdering Meredith Kercher, 21, in Perugia in 2007. Knox, now 26, was originally convicted and then acquitted of Kercher's murder over the course of four years, before being reconvicted on January 30 of this year. She spoke out immediately after the verdict, vowing that she will not willingly return to Italy to serve the sentence because she maintains her innocence, but now a blog post she wrote about her feelings shows that she feels her verdict is due to corruption. 'This has gotten out of hand. Most troubling is that it was entirely preventable. She cited an 'overzealous and intransigent prosecution, prejudiced and narrow-minded investigation, unwillingness to admit mistake' among other reasons for the reconviction. 'I am frightened and saddened by this unjust verdict. Having been found innocent before, I expected better from the Italian justice system,' she wrote. Knox returned to the United States after the original acquittal in October 2011 and has tried to return to her old life in Seattle. She quickly wrote a memoir and did a tour to promote the book in April last year, but has kept a low profile ever since. She is currently taking courses at the University of Washington but now the conviction poses a possible 28-year sentence that she has vowed to fight. 'She feels that it is a mistake and she will continue fighting for her innocence,' her attorney Carlo Dalla Vedova said. Knox stayed in Washington through the trial, refusing to go to Italy, but Sollecito was in court for the appeal. He was found in a hotel near the Italian border before having his passport revoked.
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 19, 2014 0:49:10 GMT
You and I will never agree on this, Anna.
I'm convinced that both are guilty and wish they could have been executed.
But what IS certain is that in two trials the jury convicted them both and they saw far more evidence than you or I will.
So I'd say that 'worldwide' is pitching it a bit strong.
The facts are that the US government has already said it will extradite Knox if the Italian government requests her to be sent back to Italy.
Knox has said that she'll do a runner and violate any order of that kind.
As for the rest we'll just have to agree to disagree.
But the constant cries of 'innocence' from Knox look increasingly hysterical and self-serving.
The evidence indicts her; her psychological profile indicts her; motive and opportunity indict her.
But as a white middle class American she's managed to con the US media.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 1:43:34 GMT
Italian authorities have tried her more than once just to get the result they wanted in my humble opinion
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Post by jean on Feb 19, 2014 10:24:11 GMT
But the constant cries of 'innocence' from Knox look increasingly hysterical and self-serving. That seems a very odd thing to say. If you were falsely convicted of as crime you hadn't committed, how would you expect your protestations of innocence to look? Calm and detached? It's very dangerous to put any weight on that. Has everyone forgotten this case: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Rachel_Nickell
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